Transcript from #AdjunctChat on 3/18/14 (with @Melissa_Venable)

Colouful speech bubblesThis is the transcript from #AdjunctChat on 3/18/14, and was facilitated by @Melissa_Venable.

The topic was The role of course evaluations in adjunct teaching.

All are welcome to our next #AdjunctChat on Tues, March 25 at 4:00pm EDT, where the topic will be “We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto” – led by Bri O’Blivion @whowewilltobe, Fabian Banga @fabianbanga, RCB @rcbatp, and Jeffrey Keefer @JeffreyKeefer.

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@Melissa_Venable Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. 3/18/2014 16:01
@JeffreyKeefer Even though I am attending #LSCon I am about to participate in #AdjunctChat, in case anybody else here teaches as an #adjunct #… 3/18/2014 16:01
@ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat
I’m here for a bit. Joe in Metro DC.
3/18/2014 16:01
@DemChron RT @JeffreyKeefer: Hope to see you at #AdjunctChat http://t.co/gvmSwQzxQJ @Oplerno @DemChron @ag_scheg @Janshs @KateMfD @jshanker1 @sneakin… 3/18/2014 16:02
@Melissa_Venable @ProfessorF74 Hello, Joe! Glad to have you here. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:02
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat I am…. 3/18/2014 16:02
@cookingandcomp I always forget to hashtag by tweets! Who else is in on #adjunctchat? 3/18/2014 16:03
@Melissa_Venable @MademoiselleSci Welcome to #AdjunctChat 🙂 3/18/2014 16:03
@JeffreyKeefer @Melissa_Venable I am here for #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:03
@ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Don’t know if I’m the rule or the exception, but evals haven’t really affected me as an adjunct. 3/18/2014 16:03
@MademoiselleSci I’m here to check out #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:03
@LitProfSuz Good afternoon. Looking for a cup of tea & conversation #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:04
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable I’m here, but eating in between tweets! #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:04
@Melissa_Venable Shall we? Q1) What role(s) do formal student evaluations play in your adjunct teaching? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:04
@JeffreyKeefer Take make using the #AdjunctChat hashtag easier, and so we can all follow it, I copy it and paste at the end of each Tweet. 3/18/2014 16:05
@Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 Hi Virginia! Always a pleasure #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:05
@LitProfSuz Since evals have gone electronic, less than 1/4 fill them out. Not very useful. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:05
@AdjunctChat RT @Melissa_Venable: Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. 3/18/2014 16:05
@JeffreyKeefer RT @Melissa_Venable: Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. 3/18/2014 16:05
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Q1 used to have more impact. Since going to electronic too simplistic or non-representive to help #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:06
@Melissa_Venable @ProfessorF74 I’ve had mixed experience – sometimes critical, other time not so much #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:06
@ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat They sometimes worry me (angry students –> unfair evals) for job security. No major effect in 14+ years… 3/18/2014 16:07
@Melissa_Venable Low response rate a problem. @LitProfSuz Since evals have gone electronic, less than 1/4 fill them out. Not very useful. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:07
@cookingandcomp @LitProfSuz EEH! My students complain that they aren’t able to do them online. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:07
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz Do you find that only those with an ax to grind fill them out? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:07
@Melissa_Venable RT @ProfessorF74 #AdjunctChat They sometimes worry me (angry students –> unfair evals) for job security. No major effect in 14+ years… 3/18/2014 16:07
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat 100% anecdotal, but…Angry evals seem easier when done electronically. Ss don’t have to face the prof. 3/18/2014 16:08
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat 100% anecdotal, but…Angry evals seem easier when done electronically. Ss don’t have to face the prof. 3/18/2014 16:08
@Melissa_Venable 😉 RT @JeffreyKeefer make using the #AdjunctChat hashtag easier, and so we can all follow it, I copy it and paste at the end of each Tweet. 3/18/2014 16:08
@LitProfSuz @Comprof1 Actually on both ends. Very happy or annoyed. Very few inbetween #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:08
@cheekyscience We are here too, checking out your #AdjunctChat for the first time! 3/18/2014 16:09
@cookingandcomp Not sure yet how my institution factors in evals for adjuncts, but I know they do. I guess we’ll see next year if still temp #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:09
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable I’ve always wondered why they were anonymous. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:09
@rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat Why are people afraid of angry evals? If your course was not good it should be reflected. 3/18/2014 16:09
@Melissa_Venable A lot of the pre-chat tweets seemed to reflect big issues with evals – some see process as unfair – thoughts? #Adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:09
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable Imagine if we were allowe to give anonyms feedback to students! They’d want to know what course #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:10
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable Imagine if we were allowe to give anonyms feedback to students! They’d want to know what course #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:10
@Melissa_Venable @cheekyscience Hi! Glad to have you here. 🙂 #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:10
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 #AdjunctChat So we can’t single out angry Ss? My colleague @JosephPFisher1 thinks evals = useless. I agree at times. 3/18/2014 16:10
@JeffreyKeefer @Melissa_Venable Q1 I use ongoing formative evals with a critical incident questionnaire so pay little attention to uni one #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:11
@cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Not experienced a lot of unfairness, but it’s strange to see some of the things students hold against profs #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:11
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz My dept gives standard deviations for dept. I always have one of the broadest but ave. are in line #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:11
@ProfessorF74 @rskiff @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat I fear irrationally & unfairly angry evals. E.g., “Attendance and punctuality shouldn’t count.” 3/18/2014 16:11
@ProfessorF74 RT @cookingandcomp: @Melissa_Venable Not experienced a lot of unfairness, but it’s strange to see some of the things students hold against … 3/18/2014 16:12
@Melissa_Venable @JeffreyKeefer So, you are creating your own internal eval system? I think that’s gaining popularity. I do this at midterm #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:12
@cookingandcomp @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz BC this isn’t typically what angry evals reflect. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:12
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I think qual that schools develop across uni are. My dept has qual written. Invaluable #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:12
@JeffreyKeefer @cheekyscience Welcome to #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:12
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I’ve revamped classes and syllabi due to great suggestions from students. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:13
@cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable I find institutional cultures interesting. Some schools eval “course,” others “teaching” or “instructor.” #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:13
@JeffreyKeefer @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz Depends on why angry. Quality, inclusion, fit, attention, costs, etc. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:13
@Melissa_Venable RT @Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I’ve revamped classes and syllabi due to great suggestions from students. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:13
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Evals should be the way that performance is looked at. Great teachers should be rewarded for great teaching. 3/18/2014 16:13
@LitProfSuz @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 Yes, critcal constructive is good. Anger @ others things not. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:13
@sneakinabook Course evaluations form only one data set that should be examined when considering course quality #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:14
@Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable I get: too hard to follow-too easy?? How do you handle that when you don’t know which student? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:15
@Melissa_Venable @rskiff Do you see course evals as primarily for performance evaluation? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:15
@rskiff @sneakinabook #AdjunctChat What are the others? 3/18/2014 16:15
@doc2be @AdjunctChat If use correctly and not for penalizing evals can be somewhat useful #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:15
@LitProfSuz @cookingandcomp It was rumored that my institute only looks at evals if there were other issues. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:16
@Melissa_Venable @sneakinabook Welcome, Jacque! thanks for mentioning evals as feedback on course itself, not just instructor #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:16
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat It depends on what you mean by performance. Students should be driving the process with some oversight… 3/18/2014 16:16
@cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable when I had written comments, I could usually guess who wrote what! Now I look at one question #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:16
@cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable which is “what grade do you expect to get in this class?” very telling! #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:17
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable But do students understand what good teaching is? Performance in workplace not based on anonymous eval #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:17
@fabianbanga hi everyone, sorry I am late #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:17
@JeffreyKeefer RT @LitProfSuz: @cookingandcomp It was rumored that my institute only looks at evals if there were other issues. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:17
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz That is not a surprise #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:17
@LitProfSuz This also assumes you are teaching the same course again. Evals can then be used to improve #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:17
@Melissa_Venable @cookingandcomp That’s a great question! And I agree, esp. in a small class, anonymity is tough. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:17
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Peer/DH evals more useful. So is oral student feedback.#adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:18
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Agreed: lots of conflicting advice. Evals are v/ helpful when Ss are realistic. 1/2 3/18/2014 16:18
@Melissa_Venable @fabianbanga Hello Fabian! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:18
@Comprof1 RT @cookingandcomp: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable when I had written comments, I could usually guess who wrote what! Now I look at one questio… 3/18/2014 16:18
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Problems come when irrational complaints part of official record for adjuncts. 2/2 3/18/2014 16:18
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Stylishly late, if at all! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:18
@Melissa_Venable Yep -> RT @LitProfSuz This also assumes you are teaching the same course again. Evals can then be used to improve #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:19
@rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. 3/18/2014 16:19
@ProfessorF74 RT @rskiff: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. 3/18/2014 16:19
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable But learning outcomes are dependent on State Ed for us, and Accreditors, not students. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:19
@cookingandcomp RT @ProfessorF74: @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Problems come when irrational complaints part of official record … 3/18/2014 16:19
@sneakinabook @Comprof1 Exactly why peer reviews, student success, evals, & more should be examined together to evaluate teaching #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:20
@fabianbanga @Melissa_Venable Hi Melissa! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:20
@LitProfSuz As a K-12 teacher, I used “exit slips” to get feedback daily. Why aren’t I doing this in HE? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:20
@rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Students understand what great teaching is. They either are excited and engaged in the class or not. 3/18/2014 16:20
@Melissa_Venable @cookingandcomp Official record as in personnel file? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:20
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Also think teacher evals diff for TT than adjuncts. DH knows when adjuncts aren’t doing job #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:20
@ProfessorF74 @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat This would be great. Once grades are in, Ss share their thoughts to prof and other Ss. 3/18/2014 16:20
@cookingandcomp @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat but, as student, I’d be concerned that would be held against me. I’ve given some 1/2 3/18/2014 16:20
@Comprof1 RT @rskiff: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. 3/18/2014 16:20
@Melissa_Venable RT @Comprof1 Also think teacher evals diff for TT than adjuncts. DH knows when adjuncts aren’t doing job #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:21
@cookingandcomp @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat harsh evals to profs who didn’t teach well, who I know would have held that against me. 2/2 3/18/2014 16:21
@rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat So we are not teaching the students but going through the motions–that is screwed up logic IMHO. 3/18/2014 16:21
@cookingandcomp RT @ProfessorF74: @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat This would be great. Once grades are in, Ss share their thoughts to prof … 3/18/2014 16:21
@fabianbanga @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable universal problem, however easier to take the damege for tenureds #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:21
@cookingandcomp RT @LitProfSuz: As a K-12 teacher, I used “exit slips” to get feedback daily. Why aren’t I doing this in HE? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:21
@Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz Can you tell us more about “exit slips” Intriguing … #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:22
@rskiff @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat great point, but unless people are honest with the eval no change will happen. 3/18/2014 16:22
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable No. It’s just studnts don’t always know what they need to know. Students only 1 part of equation. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:23
@Melissa_Venable If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:23
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Depends on what you mean by performance 3/18/2014 16:23
@ProfessorF74 RT @Melissa_Venable: If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:24
@cookingandcomp RT @Melissa_Venable: If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:24
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Also a diff in maturity. I’m more apt to take grad or continuing ed student comments than UG freshman #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:24
@LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable Done @ end of class-broad ?s of understanding, what went well or what could be improved #adjunctchat http://t.co/n3zb61yIgH 3/18/2014 16:25
@LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable Done @ end of class-broad ?s of understanding, what went well or what could be improved #adjunctchat http://t.co/n3zb61yIgH 3/18/2014 16:25
@Melissa_Venable @rskiff By performance I was thinking more about skills as a teacher, not quality of content. Also not how many students pass. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:25
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I teach public speaking as gateway course Students HATE it but have to take it Hard to keep them happy #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:26
@cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat I like 2 get feedback thru targeted questions/freewrites/surveys. Helps me know if activities are working well 3/18/2014 16:26
@Melissa_Venable RT @cookingandcomp #adjunctchat I like 2 get feedback thru targeted questions/freewrites/surveys. Helps me know if activities are working 3/18/2014 16:26
@rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Students are largely ignored. Don’t agree. It is our job to show the relevance and make them connect 3/18/2014 16:27
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable comments may include “waste of my time”. Not my fault they can’t waive it.#adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:27
@cookingandcomp RT @Comprof1: @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I teach public speaking as gateway course Students HATE it but have to take it Hard to keep them hap… 3/18/2014 16:27
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat I see performance as both pedagogy and content. 3/18/2014 16:28
@Melissa_Venable @comprof1 Interesting! So tweaks to evaluation process may be beneficial – different level of student, type of course #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:28
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable That said, I do teach a very flexible syllabus but 3 times work of most just so students are satisfied #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:28
@cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I feel ya! FYC is the same way. My students seem prewired to hate my class, regardless of me #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:28
@ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Same: I teach req. FYW course to freshmen. Some dislike the req. = critical evals. 3/18/2014 16:29
@Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Not if it is a course you are already competent in & school requires you take it because of $$. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:30
@Melissa_Venable @rskiff Can’t argue that – and you’ve got me thinking more broadly about the performance of a “course” now. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:30
@JeffreyKeefer RT @Melissa_Venable: @rskiff By performance I was thinking more about skills as a teacher, not quality of content. Also not how many studen… 3/18/2014 16:30
@LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 Had opportunity to tweak evals last sem -didn’t know what 2 ask that would B helpful on 1-5 scale #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:30
@Melissa_Venable Ideas? RT @LitProfSuz Had opportunity to tweak evals last sem -didn’t know what 2 ask that would B helpful on 1-5 scale #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:31
@cookingandcomp @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat I love when students say they hate English less after taking class. That’s the best! 3/18/2014 16:31
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable absolutely. Sometimes neg eval is for dept or program or state/fed requirements, not teacher/learng environt #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:31
@Melissa_Venable For the win! 🙂 RT @cookingandcomp #adjunctchat I love when students say they hate English less after taking class. That’s the best! 3/18/2014 16:32
@rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat You could avoid that by working with @Oplerno (Sorry shameless plug.) 3/18/2014 16:32
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable I teach the required research course and strive to make it engaging #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:32
@Melissa_Venable RT @Comprof1 Sometimes neg eval is for dept or program or state/fed requirements, not teacher/learng environt #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:33
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing is really hard b/c need to learn new ways to write. First time failing. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:33
@Melissa_Venable Q2) Who creates, conducts, analyzes the course evaluation process at your institution? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:34
@cookingandcomp RT @Comprof1: @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing is really hard b/c need to learn new ways to write. First time failing… 3/18/2014 16:34
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing really strikes at some students self-identity. Always thought good, but..#adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:34
@klinecj @Melissa_Venable I’m here for a bit – Chris in PA #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:34
@Melissa_Venable @klinecj Hello, Chris! Thanks for joining in. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:35
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Q2 We have uni as 1st level mandatory, then dept. and learng/teachng center as optional 2nd level. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:36
@rskiff @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat The faculty and soon the students. We are working hard to create a much more open learning system at @Oplerno 3/18/2014 16:36
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Uni level must pass faculty senate. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:36
@cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat We use institution-created form; I think DH and the personnel committee (dept) sees evals besides instructor. 3/18/2014 16:36
@Melissa_Venable Are your formal course evaluations managed at the institution level, academic department? #AdjunctChat Have to have your own approved? 3/18/2014 16:36
@fabianbanga @Melissa_Venable our process is monitored by the union and conducted by the departments. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:37
@Melissa_Venable @rskiff Really like the idea of including students in the evaluation development/review process in some way #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:37
@Melissa_Venable Q3) What are your suggestions for improving the course evaluation process, specifically for adjunct instructors? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:39
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable I have heard some discuss how things may be perceived as neg, like LOTS of work, but it being a + #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:39
@lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Resp for online evals have plummeted; much less useful feedback. Mostly angry Ss w/general complaints. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:39
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Other hidden level is accreditation bodies. Many require certain questions be asked. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:39
@Melissa_Venable RT @JeffreyKeefer
@Comprof1I have heard some discuss how things may be perceived as neg, like LOTS of work, but it being a + #AdjunctChat
3/18/2014 16:40
@lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Also, Ss often have difficulty separating program requirements from individual instructor’s approach. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:40
@lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Also, Ss often have difficulty separating program requirements from individual instructor’s approach. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:40
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Been through accreditation for AACSB and Middle states numerous times. #adjunctchat Not teacher/student oriented. 3/18/2014 16:40
@klinecj @Melissa_Venable Negative feedback sometimes is from the student who did poorly in the course and blames the instructor. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:41
@Melissa_Venable @lindajeanlee Hello Linda – great to have you with us! #AdjunctChat Are you collecting more useful feedback in any way? 3/18/2014 16:41
@fabianbanga @Melissa_Venable Instruc (adjuncts, TT & tenureds) conduct the evalu. We have a student evalu component, very strict process #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:41
@Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 Ahhh … not sure I realized accreditors required specific items on course evaluations. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:42
@lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable This sem I’m using informal midterm evals. Have collected informal oral student feedback at end of semester. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:42
@LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat End of sem is too late to address misconceptions or feelings of irrelevancy. How can we get this info earlier? 3/18/2014 16:43
@Comprof1 @klinecj Great article in Journal of Marketing Education a few yrs back on research correlating good eval w/ student grade #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:43
@LitProfSuz @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Can you say more about this? What does it look like? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:43
@Melissa_Venable @klinecj Indeed! This is definitely a challenge – getting useful feedback that is not driven by student reaction to grades. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:43
@rskiff #AdjunctChat Would people support making all evaluations public? Shouldn’t this information be available before students take a class. 3/18/2014 16:43
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable True. But then difficult because students afraid of retaliation. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:44
@klinecj @Comprof1 Thanks – I will try to find it or do you have a link? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:44
@cookingandcomp @LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable Informal midterm evals? I’ve done this & changed course activities to help meet student concerns #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:44
@Melissa_Venable RT @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat End of sem is too late to address misconceptions or feelings of irrelevancy. How can we get this info earlier? 3/18/2014 16:44
@fabianbanga Instrs (+ usually adjuncts) completely overwhelmed by poor labor conditions doing poorly in class and evalu / what do you do? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:45
@LitProfSuz What about unofficial evals, like RateMyProf? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:45
@lindajeanlee @LitProfSuz Developing it now! I think 2 open-ended questions: what Ss think is working, and what is not. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:45
@Comprof1 @rskiff Perhaps, but would instructors be able to contextualize? 1 of my goals is to make students self-reliant Less direction #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:45
@Melissa_Venable Any thoughts on this? It’s one public method. RT @LitProfSuz What about unofficial evals, like RateMyProf? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:47
@lindajeanlee @LitProfSuz General to capture a range of responses; give Ss chance to respond to any aspect of course. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:47
@JeffreyKeefer RT @Melissa_Venable: @klinecj Indeed! This is definitely a challenge – getting useful feedback that is not driven by student reaction to gr… 3/18/2014 16:47
@LitProfSuz @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable As someone else mentioned, how r y going to assure sdnts that there will not be retaliation? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:47
@rskiff @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat They are horrible. 3/18/2014 16:47
@cookingandcomp @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat Is it weird that I’m upset I’m still not on there? A student said she gave me a great rating! Still not listed. 😦 3/18/2014 16:48
@LitProfSuz @rskiff Has these unofficial evals impacted anyone’s work? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:48
@rskiff @Comprof1 #AdjunctChat @Oplerno They will with us…but transparency is not something supported at most institutions. It is at ours. 3/18/2014 16:48
@klinecj @Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz Why one evaluation – one a few weeks in to address concerns? Put the semester in perspective? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:49
@Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz Thanks for bringing us into our next question! #AdjunctChat … coming up … 3/18/2014 16:49
@lindajeanlee @LitProfSuz Great question. Trying to figure this out. Just becse I say so, doesn’t mean they believe. Ideas? @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:50
@Melissa_Venable Q4) How do/have course evaluations impacted your work? Formal/informal, renewed contract/new job applications. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:50
@Comprof1 @klinecj I can’t, but here’s one that says the same thing (talk about unliked gateway course, acctg) http://t.co/UsH6rj4s3Z #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:50
@klinecj @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Many hate the discipline which makes it difficult. I teach history! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:51
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz I refuse to even look b/c they include things not having to do w/ education/lrning #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:52
@LitProfSuz @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Maybe use Survey Monkey to be more anon? Does Blackboard provide survey function? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:52
@klinecj @Comprof1 Thanks! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:53
@lindajeanlee @fabianbanga This that has come up on some of my evals: limited office hours, tech probs, classroom prob, etc. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:53
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Always on my mind when I have a difficult student. Will they cause me to not have contract renewed? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:53
@Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz @lindajeanlee I’ve had some success using SurveyMonkey to create an informal mid term eval. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:53
@rskiff #adjunctchat GTG. Thanks for the time. If your looking for a gig as a faculty member check out http://t.co/bMbqVCFh3D 3/18/2014 16:54
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable More important I feel very depressed when I get bad evaluation. No way to find out why What were expectations? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:54
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable My husband (not in edu) will say just to shake it off. This is why I hate evals can’t get detail on WHY? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:55
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable My husband (not in edu) will say just to shake it off. This is why I hate evals can’t get detail on WHY? #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:55
@Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 Agreed, feedback can be very personal, not necessarily related to the course. #AdjunctChat Challenge to be objective. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:55
@Comprof1 RT @lindajeanlee: @fabianbanga This that has come up on some of my evals: limited office hours, tech probs, classroom prob, etc. #AdjunctCh… 3/18/2014 16:56
@lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Some Ss blame me for limitations imposed by adjunct working conditions. W/poor resp rate, effects overall evals. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:56
@lindajeanlee RT @Comprof1: @Melissa_Venable Always on my mind when I have a difficult student. Will they cause me to not have contract renewed? #adjunct… 3/18/2014 16:56
@Melissa_Venable @rskiff Thanks for being here today! #AdjunctChat Have a good week. 3/18/2014 16:56
@Comprof1 @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Yes, and complaints have to do w/ factors out of my control. Not sure who else looks at evals #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:56
@Comprof1 @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Somehow image that all poor evals are result of individual teacher. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:57
@lindajeanlee @LitProfSuz Checking into Blackboard’s capabilities this week. Otherwise, anon in-class, handwritten? @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:57
@Melissa_Venable RT @lindajeanlee Some Ss blame me for limitations imposed by adjunct working cond. W/poor resp rate, effects overall evals. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:57
@Comprof1 @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:57
@fabianbanga @lindajeanlee ++ adjuncts teach too many courses, multiple campuses, to survive / everyone suffers: + quality of the class. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:58
@Melissa_Venable Yes!! @Comprof1 Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 16:58
@Comprof1 @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga After grad, was it useful what they learned? if not why? What could be changed? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:58
@Comprof1 @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga I know for my Masters (many yrs ago) some teachers I didn’t appreciate then I do now. #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 16:59
@lindajeanlee RT @Comprof1: @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adj… 3/18/2014 16:59
@lindajeanlee RT @fabianbanga: @lindajeanlee ++ adjuncts teach too many courses, multiple campuses, to survive / everyone suffers: + quality of the class… 3/18/2014 16:59
@JeffreyKeefer Thanks @Melissa_Venable for such an engaging #AdjunctChat. Lots of food for thought! 3/18/2014 17:00
@JeffreyKeefer Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp, & @JeffreyKeefer 3/18/2014 17:00
@fabianbanga @lindajeanlee Yes, everything goes back to poor labor conditions (bad business always) #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 17:00
@Melissa_Venable We’re at the top of the hour … any take-aways re: course evaluations and adjunct teaching? #AdjunctChat Great contributions! 3/18/2014 17:00
@klinecj @Melissa_Venable @lindajeanlee Isn’t that pushing it all back on the instructor? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:00
@lindajeanlee RT @fabianbanga: @lindajeanlee Yes, everything goes back to poor labor conditions (bad business always) #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 17:01
@Melissa_Venable My pleasure @JeffreyKeefer! An interesting topic – lots of people involved, challenges to solve. Thanks for adding to #AdjunctChat sched. 3/18/2014 17:01
@MirandaMerklein How to conduct accurate evaluations in a grade-grubbing environment of exploited labor–Who benefits from student surveys? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:02
@Melissa_Venable Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp, & @JeffreyKeefer 3/18/2014 17:02
@fabianbanga @lindajeanlee This is not unique to adjunct reality / lack of resources produces these tensions #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 17:03
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Any ideas on how to get long-term feedback from those graduated? #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:03
@fabianbanga RT @JeffreyKeefer: Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp,… 3/18/2014 17:04
@lindajeanlee @klinecj Sadly, yes. And course policies designed to protect my time/energy seen as inflexibility. @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat #nowin 3/18/2014 17:04
@lindajeanlee RT @MirandaMerklein: How to conduct accurate evaluations in a grade-grubbing environment of exploited labor–Who benefits from student surv… 3/18/2014 17:05
@Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 No easy ones. Wonder if anyone is doing this? Could create your own email list – check in 6 mos, 1 yr. down the road #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:05
@Melissa_Venable Thanks for all of the shared ideas, experiences, and questions today! See you next week? http://t.co/SiZW615mmI #AdjunctChat. 3/18/2014 17:07
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat there are other ways to obtain feedback and that isn’t used to make hiring decisions other than evals. 3/18/2014 17:09
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat there are other ways to obtain feedback and that isn’t used to make hiring decisions other than evals. 3/18/2014 17:09
@JeffreyKeefer I agree with #lscon I hate paper evaluations. This is very related to today’s #AdjunctChat as well! #lscon 3/18/2014 17:09
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. 3/18/2014 17:10
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. 3/18/2014 17:10
@IyaOmotinuwe RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. 3/18/2014 17:10
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Also wondering if eval process should include teacher comment as required. “this semester tried something new” #adjunctchat 3/18/2014 17:10
@Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable Teacher reflection on evals would contextualize & make teachers reflect on teachng. #adjunctchat Richer eval process. 3/18/2014 17:11
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. 3/18/2014 17:12
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat given that adjuncts teach 70% of courses we need rethink how the current eval regime reinforces this situation. 3/18/2014 17:13
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat part if the illusion that we’re all the same stems from the desire to be perceived as equals even if we are not treated as such 3/18/2014 17:16
@IyaOmotinuwe RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. 3/18/2014 17:17
@IyaOmotinuwe RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat part if the illusion that we’re all the same stems from the desire to be perceived as equals even if we are … 3/18/2014 17:17
@lindajeanlee @Comprof1 YES! Was eviscerated once after revamping assignment structrure. Midterm evals might have helped. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:18
@lindajeanlee RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. 3/18/2014 17:18
@KateMfD @Susan_Michelle_ Check #AdjunctChat TL for past hour or so for robust discussion of evaluation you might want to add to your post. 3/18/2014 17:30
@KateMfD @Susan_Michelle_ Check #AdjunctChat TL for past hour or so for robust discussion of evaluation you might want to add to your post. 3/18/2014 17:30
@Melissa_Venable A quick transcript of today’s #AdjunctChat – Course Evaluations and Adjunct Teaching – http://t.co/53HQhacdHl – Thanks, all! 3/18/2014 17:38
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat Here’s my storify from a few months ago on teaching evaluations: http://t.co/ftE9sIhJBb 3/18/2014 17:41
@phillyprof03 #AdjunctChat Here’s my storify from a few months ago on teaching evaluations: http://t.co/ftE9sIhJBb 3/18/2014 17:41
@KateMfD “@Melissa_Venable: today’s #AdjunctChat – Course Evaluations and Adjunct Teaching – http://t.co/x425l7nL5n” @Susan_Michelle_ 3/18/2014 17:43
@LloydOfTwisted I agree discussions between grads & former professors would benefit all involved. Feedback is the key! #AdjunctChat 3/18/2014 17:54
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