This is the transcript from #AdjunctChat on 3/18/14, and was facilitated by @Melissa_Venable.
The topic was The role of course evaluations in adjunct teaching.
All are welcome to our next #AdjunctChat on Tues, March 25 at 4:00pm EDT, where the topic will be “We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto” – led by Bri O’Blivion @whowewilltobe, Fabian Banga @fabianbanga, RCB @rcbatp, and Jeffrey Keefer @JeffreyKeefer.
From User | Text | Time |
@Melissa_Venable | Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. | 3/18/2014 16:01 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Even though I am attending #LSCon I am about to participate in #AdjunctChat, in case anybody else here teaches as an #adjunct #… | 3/18/2014 16:01 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat I’m here for a bit. Joe in Metro DC. |
3/18/2014 16:01 |
@DemChron | RT @JeffreyKeefer: Hope to see you at #AdjunctChat http://t.co/gvmSwQzxQJ @Oplerno @DemChron @ag_scheg @Janshs @KateMfD @jshanker1 @sneakin… | 3/18/2014 16:02 |
@Melissa_Venable | @ProfessorF74 Hello, Joe! Glad to have you here. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:02 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat I am…. | 3/18/2014 16:02 |
@cookingandcomp | I always forget to hashtag by tweets! Who else is in on #adjunctchat? | 3/18/2014 16:03 |
@Melissa_Venable | @MademoiselleSci Welcome to #AdjunctChat 🙂 | 3/18/2014 16:03 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Melissa_Venable I am here for #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:03 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Don’t know if I’m the rule or the exception, but evals haven’t really affected me as an adjunct. | 3/18/2014 16:03 |
@MademoiselleSci | I’m here to check out #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:03 |
@LitProfSuz | Good afternoon. Looking for a cup of tea & conversation #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:04 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable I’m here, but eating in between tweets! #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:04 |
@Melissa_Venable | Shall we? Q1) What role(s) do formal student evaluations play in your adjunct teaching? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:04 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Take make using the #AdjunctChat hashtag easier, and so we can all follow it, I copy it and paste at the end of each Tweet. | 3/18/2014 16:05 |
@Melissa_Venable | @Comprof1 Hi Virginia! Always a pleasure #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:05 |
@LitProfSuz | Since evals have gone electronic, less than 1/4 fill them out. Not very useful. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:05 |
@AdjunctChat | RT @Melissa_Venable: Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. | 3/18/2014 16:05 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @Melissa_Venable: Welcome to #AdjunctChat! Who is with us today? Out topic: course evaluations and adjunct teaching. | 3/18/2014 16:05 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Q1 used to have more impact. Since going to electronic too simplistic or non-representive to help #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:06 |
@Melissa_Venable | @ProfessorF74 I’ve had mixed experience – sometimes critical, other time not so much #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:06 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat They sometimes worry me (angry students –> unfair evals) for job security. No major effect in 14+ years… | 3/18/2014 16:07 |
@Melissa_Venable | Low response rate a problem. @LitProfSuz Since evals have gone electronic, less than 1/4 fill them out. Not very useful. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:07 |
@cookingandcomp | @LitProfSuz EEH! My students complain that they aren’t able to do them online. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:07 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz Do you find that only those with an ax to grind fill them out? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:07 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @ProfessorF74 #AdjunctChat They sometimes worry me (angry students –> unfair evals) for job security. No major effect in 14+ years… | 3/18/2014 16:07 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat 100% anecdotal, but…Angry evals seem easier when done electronically. Ss don’t have to face the prof. | 3/18/2014 16:08 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat 100% anecdotal, but…Angry evals seem easier when done electronically. Ss don’t have to face the prof. | 3/18/2014 16:08 |
@Melissa_Venable | 😉 RT @JeffreyKeefer make using the #AdjunctChat hashtag easier, and so we can all follow it, I copy it and paste at the end of each Tweet. | 3/18/2014 16:08 |
@LitProfSuz | @Comprof1 Actually on both ends. Very happy or annoyed. Very few inbetween #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:08 |
@cheekyscience | We are here too, checking out your #AdjunctChat for the first time! | 3/18/2014 16:09 |
@cookingandcomp | Not sure yet how my institution factors in evals for adjuncts, but I know they do. I guess we’ll see next year if still temp #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:09 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable I’ve always wondered why they were anonymous. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:09 |
@rskiff | @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat Why are people afraid of angry evals? If your course was not good it should be reflected. | 3/18/2014 16:09 |
@Melissa_Venable | A lot of the pre-chat tweets seemed to reflect big issues with evals – some see process as unfair – thoughts? #Adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:09 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable Imagine if we were allowe to give anonyms feedback to students! They’d want to know what course #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:10 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @Melissa_Venable Imagine if we were allowe to give anonyms feedback to students! They’d want to know what course #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:10 |
@Melissa_Venable | @cheekyscience Hi! Glad to have you here. 🙂 #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:10 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Comprof1 #AdjunctChat So we can’t single out angry Ss? My colleague @JosephPFisher1 thinks evals = useless. I agree at times. | 3/18/2014 16:10 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Melissa_Venable Q1 I use ongoing formative evals with a critical incident questionnaire so pay little attention to uni one #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:11 |
@cookingandcomp | @Melissa_Venable Not experienced a lot of unfairness, but it’s strange to see some of the things students hold against profs #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:11 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz My dept gives standard deviations for dept. I always have one of the broadest but ave. are in line #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:11 |
@ProfessorF74 | @rskiff @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat I fear irrationally & unfairly angry evals. E.g., “Attendance and punctuality shouldn’t count.” | 3/18/2014 16:11 |
@ProfessorF74 | RT @cookingandcomp: @Melissa_Venable Not experienced a lot of unfairness, but it’s strange to see some of the things students hold against … | 3/18/2014 16:12 |
@Melissa_Venable | @JeffreyKeefer So, you are creating your own internal eval system? I think that’s gaining popularity. I do this at midterm #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:12 |
@cookingandcomp | @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz BC this isn’t typically what angry evals reflect. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:12 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I think qual that schools develop across uni are. My dept has qual written. Invaluable #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:12 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @cheekyscience Welcome to #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:12 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I’ve revamped classes and syllabi due to great suggestions from students. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@cookingandcomp | @Melissa_Venable I find institutional cultures interesting. Some schools eval “course,” others “teaching” or “instructor.” #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz Depends on why angry. Quality, inclusion, fit, attention, costs, etc. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 @JosephPFisher1 I’ve revamped classes and syllabi due to great suggestions from students. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Evals should be the way that performance is looked at. Great teachers should be rewarded for great teaching. | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@LitProfSuz | @rskiff @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 Yes, critcal constructive is good. Anger @ others things not. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:13 |
@sneakinabook | Course evaluations form only one data set that should be examined when considering course quality #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:14 |
@Comprof1 | @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable I get: too hard to follow-too easy?? How do you handle that when you don’t know which student? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:15 |
@Melissa_Venable | @rskiff Do you see course evals as primarily for performance evaluation? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:15 |
@rskiff | @sneakinabook #AdjunctChat What are the others? | 3/18/2014 16:15 |
@doc2be | @AdjunctChat If use correctly and not for penalizing evals can be somewhat useful #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:15 |
@LitProfSuz | @cookingandcomp It was rumored that my institute only looks at evals if there were other issues. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:16 |
@Melissa_Venable | @sneakinabook Welcome, Jacque! thanks for mentioning evals as feedback on course itself, not just instructor #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:16 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat It depends on what you mean by performance. Students should be driving the process with some oversight… | 3/18/2014 16:16 |
@cookingandcomp | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable when I had written comments, I could usually guess who wrote what! Now I look at one question #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:16 |
@cookingandcomp | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable which is “what grade do you expect to get in this class?” very telling! #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable But do students understand what good teaching is? Performance in workplace not based on anonymous eval #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@fabianbanga | hi everyone, sorry I am late #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @LitProfSuz: @cookingandcomp It was rumored that my institute only looks at evals if there were other issues. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz That is not a surprise #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@LitProfSuz | This also assumes you are teaching the same course again. Evals can then be used to improve #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@Melissa_Venable | @cookingandcomp That’s a great question! And I agree, esp. in a small class, anonymity is tough. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:17 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Peer/DH evals more useful. So is oral student feedback.#adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Agreed: lots of conflicting advice. Evals are v/ helpful when Ss are realistic. 1/2 | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@Melissa_Venable | @fabianbanga Hello Fabian! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@Comprof1 | RT @cookingandcomp: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable when I had written comments, I could usually guess who wrote what! Now I look at one questio… | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@ProfessorF74 | @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Problems come when irrational complaints part of official record for adjuncts. 2/2 | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @fabianbanga Stylishly late, if at all! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:18 |
@Melissa_Venable | Yep -> RT @LitProfSuz This also assumes you are teaching the same course again. Evals can then be used to improve #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:19 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. | 3/18/2014 16:19 |
@ProfessorF74 | RT @rskiff: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. | 3/18/2014 16:19 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable But learning outcomes are dependent on State Ed for us, and Accreditors, not students. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:19 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @ProfessorF74: @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Problems come when irrational complaints part of official record … | 3/18/2014 16:19 |
@sneakinabook | @Comprof1 Exactly why peer reviews, student success, evals, & more should be examined together to evaluate teaching #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@fabianbanga | @Melissa_Venable Hi Melissa! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@LitProfSuz | As a K-12 teacher, I used “exit slips” to get feedback daily. Why aren’t I doing this in HE? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Students understand what great teaching is. They either are excited and engaged in the class or not. | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@Melissa_Venable | @cookingandcomp Official record as in personnel file? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Also think teacher evals diff for TT than adjuncts. DH knows when adjuncts aren’t doing job #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@ProfessorF74 | @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat This would be great. Once grades are in, Ss share their thoughts to prof and other Ss. | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@cookingandcomp | @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat but, as student, I’d be concerned that would be held against me. I’ve given some 1/2 | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@Comprof1 | RT @rskiff: @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat No more anon evals. You should be able to state why a class was good/bad. | 3/18/2014 16:20 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @Comprof1 Also think teacher evals diff for TT than adjuncts. DH knows when adjuncts aren’t doing job #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@cookingandcomp | @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat harsh evals to profs who didn’t teach well, who I know would have held that against me. 2/2 | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat So we are not teaching the students but going through the motions–that is screwed up logic IMHO. | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @ProfessorF74: @rskiff @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat This would be great. Once grades are in, Ss share their thoughts to prof … | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@fabianbanga | @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable universal problem, however easier to take the damege for tenureds #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @LitProfSuz: As a K-12 teacher, I used “exit slips” to get feedback daily. Why aren’t I doing this in HE? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:21 |
@Melissa_Venable | @LitProfSuz Can you tell us more about “exit slips” Intriguing … #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:22 |
@rskiff | @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat great point, but unless people are honest with the eval no change will happen. | 3/18/2014 16:22 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable No. It’s just studnts don’t always know what they need to know. Students only 1 part of equation. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:23 |
@Melissa_Venable | If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:23 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Depends on what you mean by performance | 3/18/2014 16:23 |
@ProfessorF74 | RT @Melissa_Venable: If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:24 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @Melissa_Venable: If feedback is so strongly negative, maybe a route other than course evaluation is appropriate … ? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:24 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Also a diff in maturity. I’m more apt to take grad or continuing ed student comments than UG freshman #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:24 |
@LitProfSuz | @Melissa_Venable Done @ end of class-broad ?s of understanding, what went well or what could be improved #adjunctchat http://t.co/n3zb61yIgH | 3/18/2014 16:25 |
@LitProfSuz | @Melissa_Venable Done @ end of class-broad ?s of understanding, what went well or what could be improved #adjunctchat http://t.co/n3zb61yIgH | 3/18/2014 16:25 |
@Melissa_Venable | @rskiff By performance I was thinking more about skills as a teacher, not quality of content. Also not how many students pass. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:25 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I teach public speaking as gateway course Students HATE it but have to take it Hard to keep them happy #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:26 |
@cookingandcomp | @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat I like 2 get feedback thru targeted questions/freewrites/surveys. Helps me know if activities are working well | 3/18/2014 16:26 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @cookingandcomp #adjunctchat I like 2 get feedback thru targeted questions/freewrites/surveys. Helps me know if activities are working | 3/18/2014 16:26 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Students are largely ignored. Don’t agree. It is our job to show the relevance and make them connect | 3/18/2014 16:27 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable comments may include “waste of my time”. Not my fault they can’t waive it.#adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:27 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @Comprof1: @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I teach public speaking as gateway course Students HATE it but have to take it Hard to keep them hap… | 3/18/2014 16:27 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat I see performance as both pedagogy and content. | 3/18/2014 16:28 |
@Melissa_Venable | @comprof1 Interesting! So tweaks to evaluation process may be beneficial – different level of student, type of course #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:28 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable That said, I do teach a very flexible syllabus but 3 times work of most just so students are satisfied #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:28 |
@cookingandcomp | @Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable I feel ya! FYC is the same way. My students seem prewired to hate my class, regardless of me #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:28 |
@ProfessorF74 | @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat Same: I teach req. FYW course to freshmen. Some dislike the req. = critical evals. | 3/18/2014 16:29 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Not if it is a course you are already competent in & school requires you take it because of $$. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:30 |
@Melissa_Venable | @rskiff Can’t argue that – and you’ve got me thinking more broadly about the performance of a “course” now. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:30 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @Melissa_Venable: @rskiff By performance I was thinking more about skills as a teacher, not quality of content. Also not how many studen… | 3/18/2014 16:30 |
@LitProfSuz | @Melissa_Venable @Comprof1 Had opportunity to tweak evals last sem -didn’t know what 2 ask that would B helpful on 1-5 scale #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:30 |
@Melissa_Venable | Ideas? RT @LitProfSuz Had opportunity to tweak evals last sem -didn’t know what 2 ask that would B helpful on 1-5 scale #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:31 |
@cookingandcomp | @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat I love when students say they hate English less after taking class. That’s the best! | 3/18/2014 16:31 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable absolutely. Sometimes neg eval is for dept or program or state/fed requirements, not teacher/learng environt #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:31 |
@Melissa_Venable | For the win! 🙂 RT @cookingandcomp #adjunctchat I love when students say they hate English less after taking class. That’s the best! | 3/18/2014 16:32 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat You could avoid that by working with @Oplerno (Sorry shameless plug.) | 3/18/2014 16:32 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable I teach the required research course and strive to make it engaging #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:32 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @Comprof1 Sometimes neg eval is for dept or program or state/fed requirements, not teacher/learng environt #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:33 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing is really hard b/c need to learn new ways to write. First time failing. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:33 |
@Melissa_Venable | Q2) Who creates, conducts, analyzes the course evaluation process at your institution? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:34 |
@cookingandcomp | RT @Comprof1: @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing is really hard b/c need to learn new ways to write. First time failing… | 3/18/2014 16:34 |
@Comprof1 | @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp @Melissa_Venable Writing really strikes at some students self-identity. Always thought good, but..#adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:34 |
@klinecj | @Melissa_Venable I’m here for a bit – Chris in PA #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:34 |
@Melissa_Venable | @klinecj Hello, Chris! Thanks for joining in. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:35 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Q2 We have uni as 1st level mandatory, then dept. and learng/teachng center as optional 2nd level. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:36 |
@rskiff | @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat The faculty and soon the students. We are working hard to create a much more open learning system at @Oplerno | 3/18/2014 16:36 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Uni level must pass faculty senate. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:36 |
@cookingandcomp | @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat We use institution-created form; I think DH and the personnel committee (dept) sees evals besides instructor. | 3/18/2014 16:36 |
@Melissa_Venable | Are your formal course evaluations managed at the institution level, academic department? #AdjunctChat Have to have your own approved? | 3/18/2014 16:36 |
@fabianbanga | @Melissa_Venable our process is monitored by the union and conducted by the departments. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:37 |
@Melissa_Venable | @rskiff Really like the idea of including students in the evaluation development/review process in some way #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:37 |
@Melissa_Venable | Q3) What are your suggestions for improving the course evaluation process, specifically for adjunct instructors? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:39 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @Melissa_Venable I have heard some discuss how things may be perceived as neg, like LOTS of work, but it being a + #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:39 |
@lindajeanlee | @Melissa_Venable Resp for online evals have plummeted; much less useful feedback. Mostly angry Ss w/general complaints. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:39 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Other hidden level is accreditation bodies. Many require certain questions be asked. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:39 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1I have heard some discuss how things may be perceived as neg, like LOTS of work, but it being a + #AdjunctChat |
3/18/2014 16:40 |
@lindajeanlee | @Melissa_Venable Also, Ss often have difficulty separating program requirements from individual instructor’s approach. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:40 |
@lindajeanlee | @Melissa_Venable Also, Ss often have difficulty separating program requirements from individual instructor’s approach. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:40 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Been through accreditation for AACSB and Middle states numerous times. #adjunctchat Not teacher/student oriented. | 3/18/2014 16:40 |
@klinecj | @Melissa_Venable Negative feedback sometimes is from the student who did poorly in the course and blames the instructor. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:41 |
@Melissa_Venable | @lindajeanlee Hello Linda – great to have you with us! #AdjunctChat Are you collecting more useful feedback in any way? | 3/18/2014 16:41 |
@fabianbanga | @Melissa_Venable Instruc (adjuncts, TT & tenureds) conduct the evalu. We have a student evalu component, very strict process #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:41 |
@Melissa_Venable | @Comprof1 Ahhh … not sure I realized accreditors required specific items on course evaluations. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:42 |
@lindajeanlee | @Melissa_Venable This sem I’m using informal midterm evals. Have collected informal oral student feedback at end of semester. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:42 |
@LitProfSuz | @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat End of sem is too late to address misconceptions or feelings of irrelevancy. How can we get this info earlier? | 3/18/2014 16:43 |
@Comprof1 | @klinecj Great article in Journal of Marketing Education a few yrs back on research correlating good eval w/ student grade #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:43 |
@LitProfSuz | @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Can you say more about this? What does it look like? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:43 |
@Melissa_Venable | @klinecj Indeed! This is definitely a challenge – getting useful feedback that is not driven by student reaction to grades. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:43 |
@rskiff | #AdjunctChat Would people support making all evaluations public? Shouldn’t this information be available before students take a class. | 3/18/2014 16:43 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable True. But then difficult because students afraid of retaliation. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:44 |
@klinecj | @Comprof1 Thanks – I will try to find it or do you have a link? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:44 |
@cookingandcomp | @LitProfSuz @Melissa_Venable Informal midterm evals? I’ve done this & changed course activities to help meet student concerns #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:44 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat End of sem is too late to address misconceptions or feelings of irrelevancy. How can we get this info earlier? | 3/18/2014 16:44 |
@fabianbanga | Instrs (+ usually adjuncts) completely overwhelmed by poor labor conditions doing poorly in class and evalu / what do you do? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:45 |
@LitProfSuz | What about unofficial evals, like RateMyProf? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:45 |
@lindajeanlee | @LitProfSuz Developing it now! I think 2 open-ended questions: what Ss think is working, and what is not. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:45 |
@Comprof1 | @rskiff Perhaps, but would instructors be able to contextualize? 1 of my goals is to make students self-reliant Less direction #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:45 |
@Melissa_Venable | Any thoughts on this? It’s one public method. RT @LitProfSuz What about unofficial evals, like RateMyProf? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:47 |
@lindajeanlee | @LitProfSuz General to capture a range of responses; give Ss chance to respond to any aspect of course. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:47 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @Melissa_Venable: @klinecj Indeed! This is definitely a challenge – getting useful feedback that is not driven by student reaction to gr… | 3/18/2014 16:47 |
@LitProfSuz | @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable As someone else mentioned, how r y going to assure sdnts that there will not be retaliation? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:47 |
@rskiff | @LitProfSuz #AdjunctChat They are horrible. | 3/18/2014 16:47 |
@cookingandcomp | @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat Is it weird that I’m upset I’m still not on there? A student said she gave me a great rating! Still not listed. 😦 | 3/18/2014 16:48 |
@LitProfSuz | @rskiff Has these unofficial evals impacted anyone’s work? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:48 |
@rskiff | @Comprof1 #AdjunctChat @Oplerno They will with us…but transparency is not something supported at most institutions. It is at ours. | 3/18/2014 16:48 |
@klinecj | @Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz Why one evaluation – one a few weeks in to address concerns? Put the semester in perspective? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:49 |
@Melissa_Venable | @LitProfSuz Thanks for bringing us into our next question! #AdjunctChat … coming up … | 3/18/2014 16:49 |
@lindajeanlee | @LitProfSuz Great question. Trying to figure this out. Just becse I say so, doesn’t mean they believe. Ideas? @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:50 |
@Melissa_Venable | Q4) How do/have course evaluations impacted your work? Formal/informal, renewed contract/new job applications. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:50 |
@Comprof1 | @klinecj I can’t, but here’s one that says the same thing (talk about unliked gateway course, acctg) http://t.co/UsH6rj4s3Z #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:50 |
@klinecj | @cookingandcomp @Comprof1 @rskiff @Melissa_Venable Many hate the discipline which makes it difficult. I teach history! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:51 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable @LitProfSuz I refuse to even look b/c they include things not having to do w/ education/lrning #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:52 |
@LitProfSuz | @lindajeanlee @Melissa_Venable Maybe use Survey Monkey to be more anon? Does Blackboard provide survey function? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:52 |
@klinecj | @Comprof1 Thanks! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:53 |
@lindajeanlee | @fabianbanga This that has come up on some of my evals: limited office hours, tech probs, classroom prob, etc. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:53 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Always on my mind when I have a difficult student. Will they cause me to not have contract renewed? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:53 |
@Melissa_Venable | @LitProfSuz @lindajeanlee I’ve had some success using SurveyMonkey to create an informal mid term eval. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:53 |
@rskiff | #adjunctchat GTG. Thanks for the time. If your looking for a gig as a faculty member check out http://t.co/bMbqVCFh3D | 3/18/2014 16:54 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable More important I feel very depressed when I get bad evaluation. No way to find out why What were expectations? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:54 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable My husband (not in edu) will say just to shake it off. This is why I hate evals can’t get detail on WHY? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:55 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable My husband (not in edu) will say just to shake it off. This is why I hate evals can’t get detail on WHY? #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:55 |
@Melissa_Venable | @Comprof1 Agreed, feedback can be very personal, not necessarily related to the course. #AdjunctChat Challenge to be objective. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:55 |
@Comprof1 | RT @lindajeanlee: @fabianbanga This that has come up on some of my evals: limited office hours, tech probs, classroom prob, etc. #AdjunctCh… | 3/18/2014 16:56 |
@lindajeanlee | @fabianbanga Some Ss blame me for limitations imposed by adjunct working conditions. W/poor resp rate, effects overall evals. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:56 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @Comprof1: @Melissa_Venable Always on my mind when I have a difficult student. Will they cause me to not have contract renewed? #adjunct… | 3/18/2014 16:56 |
@Melissa_Venable | @rskiff Thanks for being here today! #AdjunctChat Have a good week. | 3/18/2014 16:56 |
@Comprof1 | @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Yes, and complaints have to do w/ factors out of my control. Not sure who else looks at evals #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:56 |
@Comprof1 | @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Somehow image that all poor evals are result of individual teacher. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:57 |
@lindajeanlee | @LitProfSuz Checking into Blackboard’s capabilities this week. Otherwise, anon in-class, handwritten? @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:57 |
@Melissa_Venable | RT @lindajeanlee Some Ss blame me for limitations imposed by adjunct working cond. W/poor resp rate, effects overall evals. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:57 |
@Comprof1 | @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:57 |
@fabianbanga | @lindajeanlee ++ adjuncts teach too many courses, multiple campuses, to survive / everyone suffers: + quality of the class. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:58 |
@Melissa_Venable | Yes!! @Comprof1 Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 16:58 |
@Comprof1 | @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga After grad, was it useful what they learned? if not why? What could be changed? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:58 |
@Comprof1 | @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga I know for my Masters (many yrs ago) some teachers I didn’t appreciate then I do now. #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 16:59 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @Comprof1: @lindajeanlee @fabianbanga Also, very short-term. I’d like to know what my students who have graduated think of my work. #adj… | 3/18/2014 16:59 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @fabianbanga: @lindajeanlee ++ adjuncts teach too many courses, multiple campuses, to survive / everyone suffers: + quality of the class… | 3/18/2014 16:59 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Thanks @Melissa_Venable for such an engaging #AdjunctChat. Lots of food for thought! | 3/18/2014 17:00 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp, & @JeffreyKeefer | 3/18/2014 17:00 |
@fabianbanga | @lindajeanlee Yes, everything goes back to poor labor conditions (bad business always) #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 17:00 |
@Melissa_Venable | We’re at the top of the hour … any take-aways re: course evaluations and adjunct teaching? #AdjunctChat Great contributions! | 3/18/2014 17:00 |
@klinecj | @Melissa_Venable @lindajeanlee Isn’t that pushing it all back on the instructor? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:00 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @fabianbanga: @lindajeanlee Yes, everything goes back to poor labor conditions (bad business always) #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 17:01 |
@Melissa_Venable | My pleasure @JeffreyKeefer! An interesting topic – lots of people involved, challenges to solve. Thanks for adding to #AdjunctChat sched. | 3/18/2014 17:01 |
@MirandaMerklein | How to conduct accurate evaluations in a grade-grubbing environment of exploited labor–Who benefits from student surveys? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:02 |
@Melissa_Venable | Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp, & @JeffreyKeefer | 3/18/2014 17:02 |
@fabianbanga | @lindajeanlee This is not unique to adjunct reality / lack of resources produces these tensions #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 17:03 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Any ideas on how to get long-term feedback from those graduated? #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:03 |
@fabianbanga | RT @JeffreyKeefer: Next week’s #AdjunctChat Tues 3/25 – We Are Not Contingent: An Adjunct Manifesto – @whowewilltobe @fabianbanga, @rcbatp,… | 3/18/2014 17:04 |
@lindajeanlee | @klinecj Sadly, yes. And course policies designed to protect my time/energy seen as inflexibility. @Melissa_Venable #adjunctchat #nowin | 3/18/2014 17:04 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @MirandaMerklein: How to conduct accurate evaluations in a grade-grubbing environment of exploited labor–Who benefits from student surv… | 3/18/2014 17:05 |
@Melissa_Venable | @Comprof1 No easy ones. Wonder if anyone is doing this? Could create your own email list – check in 6 mos, 1 yr. down the road #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:05 |
@Melissa_Venable | Thanks for all of the shared ideas, experiences, and questions today! See you next week? http://t.co/SiZW615mmI #AdjunctChat. | 3/18/2014 17:07 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat there are other ways to obtain feedback and that isn’t used to make hiring decisions other than evals. | 3/18/2014 17:09 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat there are other ways to obtain feedback and that isn’t used to make hiring decisions other than evals. | 3/18/2014 17:09 |
@JeffreyKeefer | I agree with #lscon I hate paper evaluations. This is very related to today’s #AdjunctChat as well! #lscon | 3/18/2014 17:09 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. | 3/18/2014 17:10 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. | 3/18/2014 17:10 |
@IyaOmotinuwe | RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat evals are used in many context as a punitive measure, not as a prof dev tool. | 3/18/2014 17:10 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Also wondering if eval process should include teacher comment as required. “this semester tried something new” #adjunctchat | 3/18/2014 17:10 |
@Comprof1 | @Melissa_Venable Teacher reflection on evals would contextualize & make teachers reflect on teachng. #adjunctchat Richer eval process. | 3/18/2014 17:11 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. | 3/18/2014 17:12 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat given that adjuncts teach 70% of courses we need rethink how the current eval regime reinforces this situation. | 3/18/2014 17:13 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat part if the illusion that we’re all the same stems from the desire to be perceived as equals even if we are not treated as such | 3/18/2014 17:16 |
@IyaOmotinuwe | RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. | 3/18/2014 17:17 |
@IyaOmotinuwe | RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat part if the illusion that we’re all the same stems from the desire to be perceived as equals even if we are … | 3/18/2014 17:17 |
@lindajeanlee | @Comprof1 YES! Was eviscerated once after revamping assignment structrure. Midterm evals might have helped. @Melissa_Venable #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:18 |
@lindajeanlee | RT @phillyprof03: #AdjunctChat there are implications for using evals for women and POC that need to be addressed. | 3/18/2014 17:18 |
@KateMfD | @Susan_Michelle_ Check #AdjunctChat TL for past hour or so for robust discussion of evaluation you might want to add to your post. | 3/18/2014 17:30 |
@KateMfD | @Susan_Michelle_ Check #AdjunctChat TL for past hour or so for robust discussion of evaluation you might want to add to your post. | 3/18/2014 17:30 |
@Melissa_Venable | A quick transcript of today’s #AdjunctChat – Course Evaluations and Adjunct Teaching – http://t.co/53HQhacdHl – Thanks, all! | 3/18/2014 17:38 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat Here’s my storify from a few months ago on teaching evaluations: http://t.co/ftE9sIhJBb | 3/18/2014 17:41 |
@phillyprof03 | #AdjunctChat Here’s my storify from a few months ago on teaching evaluations: http://t.co/ftE9sIhJBb | 3/18/2014 17:41 |
@KateMfD | “@Melissa_Venable: today’s #AdjunctChat – Course Evaluations and Adjunct Teaching – http://t.co/x425l7nL5n” @Susan_Michelle_ | 3/18/2014 17:43 |
@LloydOfTwisted | I agree discussions between grads & former professors would benefit all involved. Feedback is the key! #AdjunctChat | 3/18/2014 17:54 |