Transcript from #AdjunctChat on 2/25/14 (with @polypel88)

Colouful speech bubblesThis is the transcript from #AdjunctChat on 2/25/14, and was facilitated by @polypel88.

The topic was Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct.

All are welcome to our next #AdjunctChat on Tues, Mar 4, at 4:00pm EST, where the topic will be “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” and led by Suz @LitProfSuz.

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@polypel88 #adjunctchat starts in 15 minutes!!! 2/25/2014 15:49
@timlriley @polypel88 I’m in:) #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 15:50
@polypel88 #adjunctchat Today in 10 minutes. Introduce yourself as you join. 2/25/2014 15:53
@polypel88 Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors?
Why and how? #adjunctchat
2/25/2014 15:54
@polypel88 Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? How and why? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 15:55
@JeffreyKeefer Looking forward to #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 15:58
@polypel88 beginning #adjunctchat with @timlriley @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer 2/25/2014 15:59
@AdjunctChat RT @polypel88: #adjunctchat Today in 10 minutes. Introduce yourself as you join. 2/25/2014 15:59
@timlriley A1. #adjunctchat I’m partial to educators so I would say teachers because they’re trained to be in the classroom. 2/25/2014 15:59
@timlriley I’m sorry.. I’m an adjunct at two CCs #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:00
@AdjunctChat Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 2/25/2014 16:02
@JeffreyKeefer RT @polypel88: beginning #adjunctchat with @timlriley @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer 2/25/2014 16:02
@JeffreyKeefer RT @polypel88: Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? How and why? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:04
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 A1: It sounds like you are thinking about #adjunct issues and #AltAc topics? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:04
@JeffreyKeefer @timlriley Welcome to #AdjunctChat! 2/25/2014 16:05
@polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat today! Q1; Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? 2/25/2014 16:05
@melovell RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 2/25/2014 16:05
@timlriley @JeffreyKeefer thank you #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:05
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 A1: I think that those in the social sciences would fine #AdjunctChat easier. 2/25/2014 16:06
@JeffreyKeefer A1: @timlriley @polypel88 What areas / disciplines do you work in? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:06
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain Sorry just walked in I think any industry. More important is which skills can adjuncts bring #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:07
@timlriley @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 A1. #adjunctchat great teachers can come from all industries. #reallifeapplication 2/25/2014 16:07
@JeffreyKeefer @timlriley Which two CC? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:07
@JeffreyKeefer I have always worked FT outside HE, though at times feel I work there FT as well, though as an #adjunct #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:08
@timlriley @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat metropolitan cc in Omaha and Colorado CC Online 2/25/2014 16:08
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 Welcome to #AdjunctChat! 2/25/2014 16:09
@JeffreyKeefer @timlriley Ahh; how did you come by an online #adjunct position in another area? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:11
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @timlriley Ahh, got it. BTW, don’t forget to tag everything for the chat with the #AdjunctChat tag. 2/25/2014 16:12
@timlriley @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I’m not sure:) Applied through a portal site but cannot remember which one. 🙂 2/25/2014 16:12
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I used to work FT as proj mger when started. Then only did adjunct when I had kids & got Phd. Now can’t find FT #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:12
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 What brought you to #adjunct work?#AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:13
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 I didn’t know that! I do FT PM work now, too!! #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:13
@timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I know your pain. All but given up on FT employment at collegiate level 2/25/2014 16:14
@polypel88 @timlriley @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 I think that real life application is the key #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:14
@JeffreyKeefer A1: It seems to me that all fields and disciplines can benefit from people working FT and doing #adjunct work on the side #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:14
@Comprof1 For me, my speciality in international (work, development) was a foot into many diff departments. Now its tech experience. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:14
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer need a college affiliation for research #adjunctchat Journals don’ t like high school teachers 2/25/2014 16:15
@JeffreyKeefer A: I wonder if it is harder or easier to do #adjunct work in any field than another? #AdjunctChat #AltAc #PostAc #ECRchat #phdchat 2/25/2014 16:15
@timlriley @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat I would agree 2/25/2014 16:15
@Comprof1 @timlriley @JeffreyKeefer But now considered too old for FT work outside of academia also. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:15
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 I wonder if it would have been the same foot into any dept depending on your backgroun? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:16
@Comprof1 RT @polypel88: @JeffreyKeefer need a college affiliation for research #adjunctchat Journals don’ t like high school teachers 2/25/2014 16:16
@JeffreyKeefer I recall being warned out of the humanities, years ago, due to few FT TT jobs. That seems true in all fields now equally #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:16
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Meaning to publish in? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:17
@timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I’m there too. Just turned 50 2/25/2014 16:17
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer Well, I’m continually asked to step into whatever to teach. It was scary, now I feel I can teach any field. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:17
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @timlriley With fewer people seeming to retire in all fields, it seems all the old models are now being stretched #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:17
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Yes a post secondary affiliation helps for some journals and book publishers #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:18
@timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat but w/no benefits 2/25/2014 16:18
@starvingphd RT @JeffreyKeefer: Want to know more about what #AdjunctChat is? I just updated its About page http://t.co/zIsJf6eLC3 2/25/2014 16:18
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer Yes. I had extensive international experience in a very provincial area (Capital District NY). #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:18
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer Online learning has made it a bit more targeted, but I think at times when desperate, just want a body. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:19
@polypel88 Here is a good place for Q2: Does the “industry person” empower or oppress the voice of the adjuncts? #adjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:19
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Interesting; I thought peer-reviewed journals, if that is what you mean, would not pay attention to that? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:20
@polypel88 @Comprof1 I find the tech experience helps in every place #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:20
@Comprof1 @polypel88 Can you elaborate on what you mean by “industry person”? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:21
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 A2: Can you talk more about what you mean by Q2? Do you mean how #adjuncts are considered from within orgs? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:21
@LitProfSuz @polypel88 As a student, I respected adjunct who worked FT more than profs cuz the adjunct was more current & immersed #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:21
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer There are some that require a Phd to submit query: book houses too if you’re writing academic work. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:21
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Are you kidding. Many now require Uni affiliation in the vetting process. #adjunctchat. 2/25/2014 16:22
@fabianbanga hi #adjunctchat. sorry i am late, had another meeting until 1:15 2/25/2014 16:22
@polypel88 @Comprof1 The person who works full time and also adjuncts, regardless of where they work outside of adjunct position. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:22
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I no longer belong to AERA because they require a Phd & no longer have teachers as presenters. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:22
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 A2: I also wonder the difference being an #adjunct means if one is in a practitioner oriented field? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:24
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I get that from my students also. I’m always bringing in examples from friends, family, outside speakers #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:24
@starvingphd RT @Comprof1: Does anyone see the problem here? The janitor makes/is guaranteed more than an adjunct as a living wage? http://t.co/A9L31e4x… 2/25/2014 16:24
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga You are always welcome to #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:24
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz Nice to see you! #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:24
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer true I think the term is seen differently depending on the field they come from #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:25
@tseenster RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 2/25/2014 16:25
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Not any more I know many adjuncts who are academic professionals who also teach because they enjoy it #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:25
@starvingphd RT @ncte_tyca: the next #AdjunctChat Tues, Feb 25 4 EST “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct” facilitated by @polypel88 2/25/2014 16:26
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I understand this well #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:26
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I remember at one college president used to teach a course a semester to keep track of the front line #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:26
@NSRiazat RT @JeffreyKeefer: @drjoyce_knudsen @thoughtstream @NSRiazat @tmackenglish @melovell @starvingphd Hope you can make it to #AdjunctChat at … 2/25/2014 16:27
@merlemassie #adjunctchat RE: which fields might benefit from professionals: wondering if nursing, environmental, great fit, benefits to students. 2/25/2014 16:27
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz I find that to be true. I wondered if it was just me or if it had to do with outside experience #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:27
@merlemassie RT @Comprof1: @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I remember at one college president used to teach a course a semester to keep track of the front li… 2/25/2014 16:27
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Last message I got from them after I got my phd I replied that I would join when they changed policy #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:27
@KateMfD RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 2/25/2014 16:27
@JeffreyKeefer @ncte_tyca Hope you can join us! @polypel88 #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:28
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 Interestingly, in institutions you find different interpretations of what an adjunct is #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:28
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer That’s a great thing to do .. empowering for him and his faculty #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:28
@LitProfSuz @Comprof1 AERA membership requires masters or equivalent, not PhD. Also trying to highlight more teacher voices now #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:28
@Comprof1 @merlemassie But just because good practioner doesn’t mean good teacher. Some of best teachers may not be best in field. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:29
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true Some are seen as ‘sideline teachers’ while others are seen as assets #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:29
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 For example for us Adjunct means PT instructor, but other local institutions, adjunct means FT non-tenure. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:29
@JeffreyKeefer @merlemassie Welcome to #AdjunctChat! 2/25/2014 16:29
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz Membership does, but didn’t used to. Also, they require phd to be reviewer. As if teachers can’t contribute. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:30
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @Comprof1 This is good to know: I wonder what this inclusive spirit will mean for adjuncts #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:30
@timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 #adjunctchat I would fit into this category. Endorsed to teach secondary #english & #journalismmatters 2/25/2014 16:30
@KeBrittain Yes, skills & experience experience to a certain degree @timlriley @polypel88 @hoosierphd KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:31
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 Interesting. We don’t have “adjuncts” maybe because we are research uni with TA’s. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:31
@LitProfSuz As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:31
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 I have seen it both ways for sure. What do you think about a person who works tFT but adjuncts PT? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:31
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @polypel88 I did not know that about AREA! @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:32
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @polypel88 I am letting my AERA membership lapse because they focus only on FT TT positions @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:32
@LitProfSuz @polypel88 @Comprof1 I’m presenting this AERA, & will pay more attention to adjunct issues. Didn’t notice before #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:32
@timlriley @polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 #adjunctchat I’ve seen it and it angers me a little. Teach FT at one school & adjunct at another. 2/25/2014 16:33
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @fabianbanga Good question. Some unis you need to get prior permission. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:33
@merlemassie @timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 #adjunctchat Does ‘industry expert’ help or hinder overall push for increased pay for adjunct 2/25/2014 16:34
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @polypel88 AERA is only for a TT world that is behind us; they offer little (nothing?) for adjuncts @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:34
@LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 “professional training to at least the master’s degree level or equivalent” is the requirement #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:34
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 I see him/her as a professor / do not like the division: adjunct vs professor. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:34
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch I had a number of pubs under belt, was reviewer for journal when they changed policy #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:34
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @fabianbanga some corporate jobs need you to get permission too #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:35
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz I have not been a FT student since my BA, and then all the faculty at my uni were FT #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:35
@polypel88 Q3: Can the adjunct experience change the industry where a full time employee works? looking for a non-academic industry here #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:35
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch After 3 yrs reviewing for @AERAtold I was not able because I didn’t have phd. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:35
@merlemassie @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 #adjunctchat I have never heard of a uni with no sessional, part time teaching labour. Wow. 2/25/2014 16:35
@FromPhDtoLife RT @LitProfSuz: As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #ad… 2/25/2014 16:36
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 FT non-TT in this area are called “Clinical” faculty #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:36
@timlriley @polypel88 @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I can’t find a FT teaching position 2/25/2014 16:36
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 What about an artist who adjuncts? a director who teaches film courses? an accountant who teaches math? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:36
@fabianbanga @Comprof1 @polypel88 sorry, permission for what? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:36
@JeffreyKeefer RT @polypel88: @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true Some are seen as ‘sideline teachers’ while others are seen as assets #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:37
@ag_scheg RT @LitProfSuz: As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #ad… 2/25/2014 16:37
@JeffreyKeefer @KeBrittain Welcome to #AdjunctChat! 2/25/2014 16:37
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 Today had wakeup call secretary was snippy because I asked about computer problemsDoesn’t do it to TT #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:37
@LitProfSuz @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 But shouldn’t we bring attention to adjuncts from w/in? Need membership then. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:38
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz I wasn’t aware the adjunct existed until I was a grad student. Don’t think my undergrads are aware I am an adjunct #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:38
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I was a member of @AERA_EdResearch for years, but all their focus is on a TT world that does not exist #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:38
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 i see him/her as a professor teaching PT #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:38
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 To teach at another institution outside of TT job or other department.#adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:38
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I believe we should … or they should raise the pay for FT professors #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:39
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I like the notion of educational research, but the org that claims the title does not help adjuncts #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:40
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 YOU might but others don’t. Just read comments on adjunct articles in @chronicle. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:40
@merlemassie #adjunctchat Women used to work for ‘pin money’, little extras. Is there a risk that #adjunct work is viewed the same way? 2/25/2014 16:40
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @fabianbanga to have a second job at all. Some corporate people also teach. nurses teach adjunct classes #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:41
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 A3: My FT org welcomes its employees to work as #adjuncts; interest in outreach and focus on current evidence #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:41
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 Also, some are “experts” but not professors. Old system is to get expert in to teach speciality #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:41
@fabianbanga @Comprof1 @polypel88 we need an anti-segregation strategy. the difficulty is also with professors who support the segregation. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:41
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @chronicle there is a subversive “Othering” of the adjunct in some of the rhetoric #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:42
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch Alas an old academic model that will perish if it does not change as quickly as HE itself #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:42
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 Now I think unis need educators (uni level) with specialities. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:42
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer I also find that creative processes become infused through interaction with youthful outlooks #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:43
@timlriley @polypel88 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat I should not matter 2/25/2014 16:43
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 Perhaps we should not emphasis so much on the position name but on the position task #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:44
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga @Comprof1@polypel88 It does seem that this is speaking for the need for insights from critical theory? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:44
@Comprof1 @merlemassie I think that is the trad perception which is why we have the problem we have. Perception hasn’t changed w/ reality #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:44
@timlriley @LitProfSuz I love teaching but I do not like being treated like a 2nd class citizen #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:45
@Comprof1 @merlemassie My father, president of a company became adjunct to help recruit local talent. #adjunctchat not sure if he was a good teacher. 2/25/2014 16:45
@JeffreyKeefer RT @polypel88: @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @chronicle there is a subversive “Othering” of the adjunct in some of the rhetoric #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:45
@merlemassie #adjunctchat To work full time, then adjunct a full class, takes time. Only certain people could possible work it all in. #notme 2/25/2014 16:45
@fabianbanga @polypel88 now we are talking // #adjunctchat@Comprof1 @chronicle 2/25/2014 16:45
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true .. that’s why we DO what we DO. adjuncts tend to teach with love I think they are priceless #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:45
@NeColeScott RT @Comprof1: Does anyone see the problem here? The janitor makes/is guaranteed more than an adjunct as a living wage? http://t.co/A9L31e4x… 2/25/2014 16:46
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer yes! #adjunctchat@Comprof1 @polypel88 2/25/2014 16:46
@polypel88 @timlriley @LitProfSuz Nope .. not a bit. never thought to mention it or felt compelled to ‘prove’ myself #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:46
@JeffreyKeefer One thing I have learned from working with #AdjunctChat is how the #adjunct experience is impossibly far from being easily simplified. 2/25/2014 16:46
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 Why I have worked in so many depts Perhaps unis should start having adjunct pools as way for stable job #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:46
@JeffreyKeefer @merlemassie It is doable depending on one’s life. I often #adjunct 2 simultaneous courses while working FT elsewhere, like now #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:48
@LitProfSuz Tuckman, et al (1978) categories of part-time faculty:Semi-Retired, Students, Hopeful Full-Timer, Full-Mooners … #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:48
@fabianbanga @Comprof1 Actually we do, and preferential lists! A kind of seniority #adjunctchat@polypel88 2/25/2014 16:48
@starvingphd RT @Comprof1: @timlriley @JeffreyKeefer But now considered too old for FT work outside of academia also. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:49
@LitProfSuz Tuckman, Caldwell and Vogler (1978) categories cont.. Homeworkers, Part-Mooners, Part-Unknowners #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:49
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @timlriley @LitProfSuz Problem is the “staff” designation or when adjuncts aren’t part of web page under faculty. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:50
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz Can you talk more about this? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:50
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 yes! maybe a deconstruction of the term would be a great start #Adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:50
@JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @timlriley @LitProfSuz Can you talk more about this? #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:51
@polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz very interesting! #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:51
@LitProfSuz @polypel88 @timlriley I meant,as an adjunct b4, I didn’t know how difficult it was to adjunct as a job, not just for experience #Adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:51
@timlriley @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat ?? 2/25/2014 16:52
@LitProfSuz @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:53
@Comprof1 RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:53
@JeffreyKeefer Though critical of how @AERA_EdResearch considers adjunct needs, I will offer to help if it wants to consider future options #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:54
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer I know people who will only teach one class and that is it. Others do it for a living #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:54
@JeffreyKeefer RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:54
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Q4:What might be the motivation to adjunct with a full time job in another industry? #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:54
@fabianbanga @LitProfSuz in big univer w big grad progs the g students know very well who is adjunct and who tenured #adjunctchat@polypel88 @timlriley 2/25/2014 16:55
@polypel88 RT @JeffreyKeefer: RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is v… 2/25/2014 16:55
@JeffreyKeefer I think there is a lot more to say about the 4 questions @polypel88 has offered for this week’s #AdjunctChat http://t.co/ZRsGYDXm1y 2/25/2014 16:55
@LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer I’m trying to work from w/in another prof organization. I’ll let you know how it goes. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:55
@JeffreyKeefer Alas, I need to drop off now . . . time to teach my #SCPSRPM course as an #adjunct! Will catch up later #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 16:56
@JeffreyKeefer Thanks, @polypel88 for today’s engaging #AdjunctChat! 2/25/2014 16:56
@LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @polypel88 @timlriley True. Adjuncts tend to teach intro & practical courses #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:56
@polypel88 @fabianbanga @LitProfSuz @timlriley Yes .. even at smaller ones there is a seperation between the adjunct/TA when grads TA #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:57
@Comprof1 RT @fabianbanga: @LitProfSuz in big univer w big grad progs the g students know very well who is adjunct and who tenured #adjunctchat@pol… 2/25/2014 16:57
@JeffreyKeefer Next Tues, Mar 4, the #AdjunctChat topic is “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” led by @LitProfSuz at 4:00pm EST. All are welcome! 2/25/2014 16:57
@fabianbanga @LitProfSuz I saw (g studs) disrespect 2 adjuncts / infrequently / but a symptom of early indoctrination #adjunctchat@polypel88 @timlriley 2/25/2014 16:57
@LitProfSuz @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga As a teacher-leader, teaching in HE seemed next step. Coaching other teachers #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:57
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Not sure if it’s still true but some professions, findng talent to work with #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:58
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley yes the tenured teach the grads and TA/Adjunct split the undergrad non-honors #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:58
@polypel88 RT @JeffreyKeefer: Next Tues, Mar 4, the #AdjunctChat topic is “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” led by @LitProfSuz at 4:00pm EST. All are wel… 2/25/2014 16:59
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga @LitProfSuz @polypel88 @timlriley Worse is the support personnel. They’ll do all kinds of work for TT not TA/adj #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 16:59
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Only TT track allowed to teach honors and independent study. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:00
@polypel88 @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga YES! Disney grabs animation folks before they graduate with UG if good #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:00
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Unfortunate because independent study can give support to nonfunded adjunct #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 17:00
@LitProfSuz @Comprof1 @polypel88 @timlriley Yeah, @ a conference, someone didn’t take my card & said he’d look me up, but he can’t. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:02
@polypel88 #adjunctchat Closing soon .. I’m heading off but continue to kick around the topic. Next week we talk about “adjuncts as academic writers” 2/25/2014 17:02
@Comprof1 @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Also independent study w/adjunct can give student real world experience/persp #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:03
@Comprof1 RT @LitProfSuz: @Comprof1 @polypel88 @timlriley Yeah, @ a conference, someone didn’t take my card & said he’d look me up, but he can’t. #ad… 2/25/2014 17:03
@Comprof1 @polypel88 Thanks for the discussion. Very interesting. #AdjunctChat 2/25/2014 17:04
@Comprof1 RT @polypel88: @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true .. that’s why we DO what we DO. adjuncts tend to teach with love I think they are priceless… 2/25/2014 17:06
@merlemassie @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley #adjunctchat I taught 2 graduate courses as adjunct. Fascinating, rewarding, but used. 2/25/2014 17:07
@merlemassie #adjunctchat Thanks everyone! 2/25/2014 17:07
@LitProfSuz @merlemassie @polypel88 @fabianbanga @timlriley I have also taught grad courses as adjunct. Great discussions! Loved the work. #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:09
@fabianbanga @Comprof1 we do not want PT insts to teach indep studies cause they do not get pay for this #adjunctchat
@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @timlriley
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@fabianbanga @Comprof1 we all do this for free // #adjunctchat@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @timlriley 2/25/2014 17:10
@fabianbanga @polypel88 @merlemassie @LitProfSuz @timlriley so a TA can do more than an Adjunct… #adjunctchat 2/25/2014 17:21
@starvingphd RT @AdjunctChat: We always want to hear new ideas about #adjuncts. Want to facilitate an #AdjunctChat? http://t.co/TV2jxahnFM #PostAc #AltA… 2/25/2014 17:44
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