This is the transcript from #AdjunctChat on 2/25/14, and was facilitated by @polypel88.
The topic was Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct.
All are welcome to our next #AdjunctChat on Tues, Mar 4, at 4:00pm EST, where the topic will be “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” and led by Suz @LitProfSuz.
From User | Text | Time |
@polypel88 | #adjunctchat starts in 15 minutes!!! | 2/25/2014 15:49 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 I’m in:) #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 15:50 |
@polypel88 | #adjunctchat Today in 10 minutes. Introduce yourself as you join. | 2/25/2014 15:53 |
@polypel88 | Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? Why and how? #adjunctchat |
2/25/2014 15:54 |
@polypel88 | Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? How and why? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 15:55 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Looking forward to #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 15:58 |
@polypel88 | beginning #adjunctchat with @timlriley @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer | 2/25/2014 15:59 |
@AdjunctChat | RT @polypel88: #adjunctchat Today in 10 minutes. Introduce yourself as you join. | 2/25/2014 15:59 |
@timlriley | A1. #adjunctchat I’m partial to educators so I would say teachers because they’re trained to be in the classroom. | 2/25/2014 15:59 |
@timlriley | I’m sorry.. I’m an adjunct at two CCs #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:00 |
@AdjunctChat | Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 | 2/25/2014 16:02 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @polypel88: beginning #adjunctchat with @timlriley @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer | 2/25/2014 16:02 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @polypel88: Q1: Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? How and why? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:04 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 A1: It sounds like you are thinking about #adjunct issues and #AltAc topics? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:04 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @timlriley Welcome to #AdjunctChat! | 2/25/2014 16:05 |
@polypel88 | @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat today! Q1; Which industry’s employees would be most beneficial as adjunct instructors? | 2/25/2014 16:05 |
@melovell | RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 | 2/25/2014 16:05 |
@timlriley | @JeffreyKeefer thank you #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:05 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 A1: I think that those in the social sciences would fine #AdjunctChat easier. | 2/25/2014 16:06 |
@JeffreyKeefer | A1: @timlriley @polypel88 What areas / disciplines do you work in? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:06 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain Sorry just walked in I think any industry. More important is which skills can adjuncts bring #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:07 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 A1. #adjunctchat great teachers can come from all industries. #reallifeapplication | 2/25/2014 16:07 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @timlriley Which two CC? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:07 |
@JeffreyKeefer | I have always worked FT outside HE, though at times feel I work there FT as well, though as an #adjunct #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:08 |
@timlriley | @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat metropolitan cc in Omaha and Colorado CC Online | 2/25/2014 16:08 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 Welcome to #AdjunctChat! | 2/25/2014 16:09 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @timlriley Ahh; how did you come by an online #adjunct position in another area? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:11 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 @timlriley Ahh, got it. BTW, don’t forget to tag everything for the chat with the #AdjunctChat tag. | 2/25/2014 16:12 |
@timlriley | @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I’m not sure:) Applied through a portal site but cannot remember which one. 🙂 | 2/25/2014 16:12 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer I used to work FT as proj mger when started. Then only did adjunct when I had kids & got Phd. Now can’t find FT #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:12 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 What brought you to #adjunct work?#AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:13 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 I didn’t know that! I do FT PM work now, too!! #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:13 |
@timlriley | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I know your pain. All but given up on FT employment at collegiate level | 2/25/2014 16:14 |
@polypel88 | @timlriley @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 I think that real life application is the key #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:14 |
@JeffreyKeefer | A1: It seems to me that all fields and disciplines can benefit from people working FT and doing #adjunct work on the side #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:14 |
@Comprof1 | For me, my speciality in international (work, development) was a foot into many diff departments. Now its tech experience. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:14 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer need a college affiliation for research #adjunctchat Journals don’ t like high school teachers | 2/25/2014 16:15 |
@JeffreyKeefer | A: I wonder if it is harder or easier to do #adjunct work in any field than another? #AdjunctChat #AltAc #PostAc #ECRchat #phdchat | 2/25/2014 16:15 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 @hoosierphd @KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat I would agree | 2/25/2014 16:15 |
@Comprof1 | @timlriley @JeffreyKeefer But now considered too old for FT work outside of academia also. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:15 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 I wonder if it would have been the same foot into any dept depending on your backgroun? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:16 |
@Comprof1 | RT @polypel88: @JeffreyKeefer need a college affiliation for research #adjunctchat Journals don’ t like high school teachers | 2/25/2014 16:16 |
@JeffreyKeefer | I recall being warned out of the humanities, years ago, due to few FT TT jobs. That seems true in all fields now equally #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:16 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 Meaning to publish in? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:17 |
@timlriley | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I’m there too. Just turned 50 | 2/25/2014 16:17 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer Well, I’m continually asked to step into whatever to teach. It was scary, now I feel I can teach any field. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:17 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @timlriley With fewer people seeming to retire in all fields, it seems all the old models are now being stretched #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:17 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer Yes a post secondary affiliation helps for some journals and book publishers #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:18 |
@timlriley | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat but w/no benefits | 2/25/2014 16:18 |
@starvingphd | RT @JeffreyKeefer: Want to know more about what #AdjunctChat is? I just updated its About page http://t.co/zIsJf6eLC3 | 2/25/2014 16:18 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer Yes. I had extensive international experience in a very provincial area (Capital District NY). #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:18 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer Online learning has made it a bit more targeted, but I think at times when desperate, just want a body. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:19 |
@polypel88 | Here is a good place for Q2: Does the “industry person” empower or oppress the voice of the adjuncts? #adjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:19 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 Interesting; I thought peer-reviewed journals, if that is what you mean, would not pay attention to that? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:20 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 I find the tech experience helps in every place #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:20 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 Can you elaborate on what you mean by “industry person”? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:21 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 A2: Can you talk more about what you mean by Q2? Do you mean how #adjuncts are considered from within orgs? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:21 |
@LitProfSuz | @polypel88 As a student, I respected adjunct who worked FT more than profs cuz the adjunct was more current & immersed #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:21 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer There are some that require a Phd to submit query: book houses too if you’re writing academic work. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:21 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Are you kidding. Many now require Uni affiliation in the vetting process. #adjunctchat. | 2/25/2014 16:22 |
@fabianbanga | hi #adjunctchat. sorry i am late, had another meeting until 1:15 | 2/25/2014 16:22 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 The person who works full time and also adjuncts, regardless of where they work outside of adjunct position. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:22 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I no longer belong to AERA because they require a Phd & no longer have teachers as presenters. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:22 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 A2: I also wonder the difference being an #adjunct means if one is in a practitioner oriented field? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:24 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I get that from my students also. I’m always bringing in examples from friends, family, outside speakers #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:24 |
@starvingphd | RT @Comprof1: Does anyone see the problem here? The janitor makes/is guaranteed more than an adjunct as a living wage? http://t.co/A9L31e4x… | 2/25/2014 16:24 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @fabianbanga You are always welcome to #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:24 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz Nice to see you! #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:24 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer true I think the term is seen differently depending on the field they come from #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:25 |
@tseenster | RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 | 2/25/2014 16:25 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 Not any more I know many adjuncts who are academic professionals who also teach because they enjoy it #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:25 |
@starvingphd | RT @ncte_tyca: the next #AdjunctChat Tues, Feb 25 4 EST “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct” facilitated by @polypel88 | 2/25/2014 16:26 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I understand this well #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:26 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I remember at one college president used to teach a course a semester to keep track of the front line #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:26 |
@NSRiazat | RT @JeffreyKeefer: @drjoyce_knudsen @thoughtstream @NSRiazat @tmackenglish @melovell @starvingphd Hope you can make it to #AdjunctChat at … | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@merlemassie | #adjunctchat RE: which fields might benefit from professionals: wondering if nursing, environmental, great fit, benefits to students. | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz I find that to be true. I wondered if it was just me or if it had to do with outside experience #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@merlemassie | RT @Comprof1: @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 I remember at one college president used to teach a course a semester to keep track of the front li… | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Last message I got from them after I got my phd I replied that I would join when they changed policy #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@KateMfD | RT @AdjunctChat: Today’s #AdjunctChat with @polypel88 is on “Those who work FT outside academia BUT also adjunct ” http://t.co/1iEEWpOdj4 | 2/25/2014 16:27 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @ncte_tyca Hope you can join us! @polypel88 #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:28 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @Comprof1 Interestingly, in institutions you find different interpretations of what an adjunct is #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:28 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer That’s a great thing to do .. empowering for him and his faculty #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:28 |
@LitProfSuz | @Comprof1 AERA membership requires masters or equivalent, not PhD. Also trying to highlight more teacher voices now #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:28 |
@Comprof1 | @merlemassie But just because good practioner doesn’t mean good teacher. Some of best teachers may not be best in field. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:29 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true Some are seen as ‘sideline teachers’ while others are seen as assets #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:29 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @Comprof1 For example for us Adjunct means PT instructor, but other local institutions, adjunct means FT non-tenure. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:29 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @merlemassie Welcome to #AdjunctChat! | 2/25/2014 16:29 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz Membership does, but didn’t used to. Also, they require phd to be reviewer. As if teachers can’t contribute. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:30 |
@polypel88 | @LitProfSuz @Comprof1 This is good to know: I wonder what this inclusive spirit will mean for adjuncts #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:30 |
@timlriley | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 #adjunctchat I would fit into this category. Endorsed to teach secondary #english & #journalismmatters | 2/25/2014 16:30 |
@KeBrittain | Yes, skills & experience experience to a certain degree @timlriley @polypel88 @hoosierphd KeBrittain @Comprof1 #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:31 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 Interesting. We don’t have “adjuncts” maybe because we are research uni with TA’s. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:31 |
@LitProfSuz | As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:31 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @Comprof1 I have seen it both ways for sure. What do you think about a person who works tFT but adjuncts PT? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:31 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @polypel88 I did not know that about AREA! @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:32 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @polypel88 I am letting my AERA membership lapse because they focus only on FT TT positions @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:32 |
@LitProfSuz | @polypel88 @Comprof1 I’m presenting this AERA, & will pay more attention to adjunct issues. Didn’t notice before #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:32 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 @fabianbanga @Comprof1 #adjunctchat I’ve seen it and it angers me a little. Teach FT at one school & adjunct at another. | 2/25/2014 16:33 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @fabianbanga Good question. Some unis you need to get prior permission. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:33 |
@merlemassie | @timlriley @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 #adjunctchat Does ‘industry expert’ help or hinder overall push for increased pay for adjunct | 2/25/2014 16:34 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @polypel88 AERA is only for a TT world that is behind us; they offer little (nothing?) for adjuncts @AERA_EdResearch #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:34 |
@LitProfSuz | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 “professional training to at least the master’s degree level or equivalent” is the requirement #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:34 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @Comprof1 I see him/her as a professor / do not like the division: adjunct vs professor. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:34 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch I had a number of pubs under belt, was reviewer for journal when they changed policy #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:34 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @fabianbanga some corporate jobs need you to get permission too #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:35 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz I have not been a FT student since my BA, and then all the faculty at my uni were FT #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:35 |
@polypel88 | Q3: Can the adjunct experience change the industry where a full time employee works? looking for a non-academic industry here #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:35 |
@Comprof1 | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch After 3 yrs reviewing for @AERAtold I was not able because I didn’t have phd. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:35 |
@merlemassie | @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @polypel88 #adjunctchat I have never heard of a uni with no sessional, part time teaching labour. Wow. | 2/25/2014 16:35 |
@FromPhDtoLife | RT @LitProfSuz: As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #ad… | 2/25/2014 16:36 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @fabianbanga @polypel88 @Comprof1 FT non-TT in this area are called “Clinical” faculty #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:36 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat I can’t find a FT teaching position | 2/25/2014 16:36 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @Comprof1 What about an artist who adjuncts? a director who teaches film courses? an accountant who teaches math? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:36 |
@fabianbanga | @Comprof1 @polypel88 sorry, permission for what? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:36 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @polypel88: @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true Some are seen as ‘sideline teachers’ while others are seen as assets #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:37 |
@ag_scheg | RT @LitProfSuz: As a FT grad student, I adjuncted for experience. Wasn’t aware of adjunct issues until recently when it became my job. #ad… | 2/25/2014 16:37 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @KeBrittain Welcome to #AdjunctChat! | 2/25/2014 16:37 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 Today had wakeup call secretary was snippy because I asked about computer problemsDoesn’t do it to TT #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:37 |
@LitProfSuz | @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 But shouldn’t we bring attention to adjuncts from w/in? Need membership then. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:38 |
@polypel88 | @LitProfSuz I wasn’t aware the adjunct existed until I was a grad student. Don’t think my undergrads are aware I am an adjunct #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:38 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I was a member of @AERA_EdResearch for years, but all their focus is on a TT world that does not exist #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:38 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @Comprof1 i see him/her as a professor teaching PT #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:38 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 To teach at another institution outside of TT job or other department.#adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:38 |
@polypel88 | @LitProfSuz @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I believe we should … or they should raise the pay for FT professors #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:39 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz @polypel88 I like the notion of educational research, but the org that claims the title does not help adjuncts #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:40 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 YOU might but others don’t. Just read comments on adjunct articles in @chronicle. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:40 |
@merlemassie | #adjunctchat Women used to work for ‘pin money’, little extras. Is there a risk that #adjunct work is viewed the same way? | 2/25/2014 16:40 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @fabianbanga to have a second job at all. Some corporate people also teach. nurses teach adjunct classes #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:41 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 A3: My FT org welcomes its employees to work as #adjuncts; interest in outreach and focus on current evidence #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:41 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 Also, some are “experts” but not professors. Old system is to get expert in to teach speciality #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:41 |
@fabianbanga | @Comprof1 @polypel88 we need an anti-segregation strategy. the difficulty is also with professors who support the segregation. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:41 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @chronicle there is a subversive “Othering” of the adjunct in some of the rhetoric #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:42 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @Comprof1 @polypel88 @AERA_EdResearch Alas an old academic model that will perish if it does not change as quickly as HE itself #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:42 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 Now I think unis need educators (uni level) with specialities. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:42 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer I also find that creative processes become infused through interaction with youthful outlooks #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:43 |
@timlriley | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat I should not matter | 2/25/2014 16:43 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @Comprof1 Perhaps we should not emphasis so much on the position name but on the position task #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:44 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @fabianbanga @Comprof1@polypel88 It does seem that this is speaking for the need for insights from critical theory? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:44 |
@Comprof1 | @merlemassie I think that is the trad perception which is why we have the problem we have. Perception hasn’t changed w/ reality #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:44 |
@timlriley | @LitProfSuz I love teaching but I do not like being treated like a 2nd class citizen #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@Comprof1 | @merlemassie My father, president of a company became adjunct to help recruit local talent. #adjunctchat not sure if he was a good teacher. | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @polypel88: @Comprof1 @fabianbanga @chronicle there is a subversive “Othering” of the adjunct in some of the rhetoric #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@merlemassie | #adjunctchat To work full time, then adjunct a full class, takes time. Only certain people could possible work it all in. #notme | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 now we are talking // #adjunctchat@Comprof1 @chronicle | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true .. that’s why we DO what we DO. adjuncts tend to teach with love I think they are priceless #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:45 |
@NeColeScott | RT @Comprof1: Does anyone see the problem here? The janitor makes/is guaranteed more than an adjunct as a living wage? http://t.co/A9L31e4x… | 2/25/2014 16:46 |
@fabianbanga | @JeffreyKeefer yes! #adjunctchat@Comprof1 @polypel88 | 2/25/2014 16:46 |
@polypel88 | @timlriley @LitProfSuz Nope .. not a bit. never thought to mention it or felt compelled to ‘prove’ myself #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:46 |
@JeffreyKeefer | One thing I have learned from working with #AdjunctChat is how the #adjunct experience is impossibly far from being easily simplified. | 2/25/2014 16:46 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @polypel88 Why I have worked in so many depts Perhaps unis should start having adjunct pools as way for stable job #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:46 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @merlemassie It is doable depending on one’s life. I often #adjunct 2 simultaneous courses while working FT elsewhere, like now #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:48 |
@LitProfSuz | Tuckman, et al (1978) categories of part-time faculty:Semi-Retired, Students, Hopeful Full-Timer, Full-Mooners … #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:48 |
@fabianbanga | @Comprof1 Actually we do, and preferential lists! A kind of seniority #adjunctchat@polypel88 | 2/25/2014 16:48 |
@starvingphd | RT @Comprof1: @timlriley @JeffreyKeefer But now considered too old for FT work outside of academia also. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:49 |
@LitProfSuz | Tuckman, Caldwell and Vogler (1978) categories cont.. Homeworkers, Part-Mooners, Part-Unknowners #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:49 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @timlriley @LitProfSuz Problem is the “staff” designation or when adjuncts aren’t part of web page under faculty. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:50 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @LitProfSuz Can you talk more about this? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:50 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 yes! maybe a deconstruction of the term would be a great start #Adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:50 |
@JeffreyKeefer | @polypel88 @timlriley @LitProfSuz Can you talk more about this? #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:51 |
@polypel88 | @JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz very interesting! #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:51 |
@LitProfSuz | @polypel88 @timlriley I meant,as an adjunct b4, I didn’t know how difficult it was to adjunct as a job, not just for experience #Adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:51 |
@timlriley | @JeffreyKeefer @polypel88 @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat ?? | 2/25/2014 16:52 |
@LitProfSuz | @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:53 |
@Comprof1 | RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:53 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Though critical of how @AERA_EdResearch considers adjunct needs, I will offer to help if it wants to consider future options #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:54 |
@Comprof1 | @LitProfSuz @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer I know people who will only teach one class and that is it. Others do it for a living #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:54 |
@JeffreyKeefer | RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is variable #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:54 |
@polypel88 | @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Q4:What might be the motivation to adjunct with a full time job in another industry? #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:54 |
@fabianbanga | @LitProfSuz in big univer w big grad progs the g students know very well who is adjunct and who tenured #adjunctchat@polypel88 @timlriley | 2/25/2014 16:55 |
@polypel88 | RT @JeffreyKeefer: RT @LitProfSuz: @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer Ppl adjunct for different reasons, therefor the experience & satisfaction is v… | 2/25/2014 16:55 |
@JeffreyKeefer | I think there is a lot more to say about the 4 questions @polypel88 has offered for this week’s #AdjunctChat http://t.co/ZRsGYDXm1y | 2/25/2014 16:55 |
@LitProfSuz | @JeffreyKeefer I’m trying to work from w/in another prof organization. I’ll let you know how it goes. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:55 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Alas, I need to drop off now . . . time to teach my #SCPSRPM course as an #adjunct! Will catch up later #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 16:56 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Thanks, @polypel88 for today’s engaging #AdjunctChat! | 2/25/2014 16:56 |
@LitProfSuz | @fabianbanga @polypel88 @timlriley True. Adjuncts tend to teach intro & practical courses #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:56 |
@polypel88 | @fabianbanga @LitProfSuz @timlriley Yes .. even at smaller ones there is a seperation between the adjunct/TA when grads TA #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:57 |
@Comprof1 | RT @fabianbanga: @LitProfSuz in big univer w big grad progs the g students know very well who is adjunct and who tenured #adjunctchat@pol… | 2/25/2014 16:57 |
@JeffreyKeefer | Next Tues, Mar 4, the #AdjunctChat topic is “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” led by @LitProfSuz at 4:00pm EST. All are welcome! | 2/25/2014 16:57 |
@fabianbanga | @LitProfSuz I saw (g studs) disrespect 2 adjuncts / infrequently / but a symptom of early indoctrination #adjunctchat@polypel88 @timlriley | 2/25/2014 16:57 |
@LitProfSuz | @polypel88 @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga As a teacher-leader, teaching in HE seemed next step. Coaching other teachers #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:57 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Not sure if it’s still true but some professions, findng talent to work with #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:58 |
@polypel88 | @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley yes the tenured teach the grads and TA/Adjunct split the undergrad non-honors #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:58 |
@polypel88 | RT @JeffreyKeefer: Next Tues, Mar 4, the #AdjunctChat topic is “Adjuncts as Academic Writers” led by @LitProfSuz at 4:00pm EST. All are wel… | 2/25/2014 16:59 |
@Comprof1 | @fabianbanga @LitProfSuz @polypel88 @timlriley Worse is the support personnel. They’ll do all kinds of work for TT not TA/adj #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 16:59 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Only TT track allowed to teach honors and independent study. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:00 |
@polypel88 | @Comprof1 @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga YES! Disney grabs animation folks before they graduate with UG if good #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:00 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Unfortunate because independent study can give support to nonfunded adjunct #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 17:00 |
@LitProfSuz | @Comprof1 @polypel88 @timlriley Yeah, @ a conference, someone didn’t take my card & said he’d look me up, but he can’t. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:02 |
@polypel88 | #adjunctchat Closing soon .. I’m heading off but continue to kick around the topic. Next week we talk about “adjuncts as academic writers” | 2/25/2014 17:02 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley Also independent study w/adjunct can give student real world experience/persp #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:03 |
@Comprof1 | RT @LitProfSuz: @Comprof1 @polypel88 @timlriley Yeah, @ a conference, someone didn’t take my card & said he’d look me up, but he can’t. #ad… | 2/25/2014 17:03 |
@Comprof1 | @polypel88 Thanks for the discussion. Very interesting. #AdjunctChat | 2/25/2014 17:04 |
@Comprof1 | RT @polypel88: @fabianbanga @Comprof1 Very true .. that’s why we DO what we DO. adjuncts tend to teach with love I think they are priceless… | 2/25/2014 17:06 |
@merlemassie | @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @fabianbanga @timlriley #adjunctchat I taught 2 graduate courses as adjunct. Fascinating, rewarding, but used. | 2/25/2014 17:07 |
@merlemassie | #adjunctchat Thanks everyone! | 2/25/2014 17:07 |
@LitProfSuz | @merlemassie @polypel88 @fabianbanga @timlriley I have also taught grad courses as adjunct. Great discussions! Loved the work. #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:09 |
@fabianbanga | @Comprof1 we do not want PT insts to teach indep studies cause they do not get pay for this #adjunctchat @polypel88 @LitProfSuz @timlriley |
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@fabianbanga | @Comprof1 we all do this for free // #adjunctchat@polypel88 @LitProfSuz @timlriley | 2/25/2014 17:10 |
@fabianbanga | @polypel88 @merlemassie @LitProfSuz @timlriley so a TA can do more than an Adjunct… #adjunctchat | 2/25/2014 17:21 |
@starvingphd | RT @AdjunctChat: We always want to hear new ideas about #adjuncts. Want to facilitate an #AdjunctChat? http://t.co/TV2jxahnFM #PostAc #AltA… | 2/25/2014 17:44 |