Transcript from #AdjunctChat on 2/4/14

Colouful speech bubblesThis is the transcript from #AdjunctChat on 2/4/14, and was facilitated by Joseph Fruscione @ProfessorF74.

The topic was When We Decide To Leave

All are welcome to our next #AdjunctChat on Tues, Feb 11 at 4:00pm EST, which will be facilitated by VCVaile @VCVaile.

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@ProfessorF74 It’s time for #adjunctchat: we’re discussing when #adjuncts decide to leave higher ed,  how to reframe academic exper., & what’s next. 2/4/2014 16:00:49
@IshaiBarnoy RT @ProfessorF74: It’s time for #adjunctchat: we’re discussing when #adjuncts decide to leave higher ed,  how to reframe academic exper., &… 2/4/2014 16:01:31
@FromPhDtoLife I’m here! An adjunct in spirit only, #postac in more than spirit. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:02:36
@FromPhDtoLife RT @ProfessorF74: It’s time for #adjunctchat: we’re discussing when #adjuncts decide to leave higher ed,  how to reframe academic exper., &… 2/4/2014 16:02:59
@ProfessorF74 Check in with a brief intro and what (if any) #postac or #altac plans you have. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:03:05
@melovell RT @ProfessorF74: It’s time for #adjunctchat: we’re discussing when #adjuncts decide to leave higher ed,  how to reframe academic exper., &… 2/4/2014 16:03:35
@IshaiBarnoy I’m here, too. An #Adjunct, a creative in several fields, here for some #AdjunctChat. 2/4/2014 16:03:59
@cookingandcomp In my first year of adjuncting just out of grad school. Unsure how I would ever trans to another kind of job. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:04:30
@ProfessorF74 For the first time since 2006, I’m an adjunct at only one school. English/Writing Studies.
#adjunctchat
2/4/2014 16:04:42
@FromPhDtoLife I quit my last sort-of jobs last year, hoping to succeed at self-employment. Had been making adjunct-like wages, not advancing. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:05:02
@RebeccaOctavia Also here, an #adjunct, love teaching but have to be realistic and start looking into alternatives… #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:05:17
@IshaiBarnoy My #postac plans: Careerwise: Find a job; Otherwise: Starting to perform and write for (and about?) local theater. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:05:26
@Comprof1 #adjunctchat I am being forced to look for consulting or admin jobs. My long term adj contract is in peril! 2/4/2014 16:05:38
@JeffreyKeefer RT @ProfessorF74: It’s time for #adjunctchat: we’re discussing when #adjuncts decide to leave higher ed,  how to reframe academic exper.,… 2/4/2014 16:05:51
@fabianbanga @ProfessorF74 I am here #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:05:53
@ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp It’s a big change for sure. I’m making it up as I go. Jennifer Pollk will be a big help.

Also: LinkedIn. #adjunctchat

2/4/2014 16:05:53
@cookingandcomp @RebeccaOctavia I love teaching, too, but the realist in me is making me reevaluate. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:06:10
@FromPhDtoLife I felt like this! @cookingandcomp But know that many do it. Not easy but often done, can learn from others #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:06:13
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 Looking forward to today’s #AdjunctChat that is just beginning http://t.co/juedPP6P2M 2/4/2014 16:06:42
@4KM Hello everyone at #adjunctchat; just got in the door in time to join. Feel “in transition” so will enjoy hearing perspectives. 2/4/2014 16:06:44
@Comprof1 @RebeccaOctavia  #adjunctchat What alternatives are you looking for? 2/4/2014 16:06:46
@IshaiBarnoy @Comprof1 Oh no! After so many years? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:06:57
@ProfessorF74 @RebeccaOctavia Same here, Rebecca. Someone like me (14 years teaching) is seen as “stale.” I’m set up to do freelance editing. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:07:25
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 To your question, I wonder how many #adjuncts consider themselves #AltAc, anyway? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:07:41
@FromPhDtoLife I’m convinced those of us who love teaching can find we love it in other contexts: consulting, training, coaching etc #adjunctchat #postac 2/4/2014 16:07:59
@RebeccaOctavia @comprof1 for now only admin in #highered and maybe non-profit. It’s a scary transition, to be quite honest! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:08:06
@JeffreyKeefer I always considered #AltAc as alternate to (full-time) academic work, and not something only in the realm of the humanities #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:08:14
@IshaiBarnoy Definitely, though, I’ve been feeling job-imperiled since my very first semester. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:08:17
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74  #adjunctchat I’m taking the opportunity to take free classes in xhtml on campus. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:08:28
@MirandaMerklein Hi. I’m still adjuncting (5 courses at two schools). In realizing that I may never get FT work, searching 4 PhD alt-ac alterns #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:08:30
@ProfessorF74 @JeffreyKeefer Great question. Who already feels #altac? I don’t (yet..). #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:08:36
@melovell #AdjunctChat Turned down sessional teaching job this semester. Will focus on writing & getting consulting experience. 2/4/2014 16:08:54
@MeganJMcPherson #AdjunctChat is on now! 2/4/2014 16:08:57
@JeffreyKeefer I have taught as an #adjunct for 8 years, though always worked FT elsewhere #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:09:13
@IshaiBarnoy @FromPhDtoLife I think I like coaching/counseling more than teaching, & performing way more than that, but teaching works. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:09:23
@Comprof1 @RebeccaOctavia  #adjunctchat I’ve worked in admin but not as dept head. Hard to transition in w/out. 2/4/2014 16:09:29
@ProfessorF74 @MirandaMerklein Adjuncts like you are fast becoming the rule. Lots of multicampus work.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:09:35
@cookingandcomp anyone whose made the leap found any factors that help? locations? time to look? way to sell myself? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:09:42
@RebeccaOctavia @FromPhDtoLife Yes! It’s great how many ressources there are now (including your blog) for learning to “rebrand” our skills #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:10:09
@JeffreyKeefer @RebeccaOctavia I have always worked non-profit (or at least much of my working life) @Comprof1 #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:10:13
@4KM Either/or framing is interesting for this #adjunctchat. Most people I know are both/and and plan to stay that way. 2/4/2014 16:10:20
@FromPhDtoLife Things started to happen for me when I embraced being in transition. Felt MUCH better & could relate to others, not just ac’s #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:10:21
@ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp For me, LinkedIn has been good. Also, some self-promotion: What do you do well? How can your exp. transfer?

#adjunctchat

2/4/2014 16:10:31
@Comprof1 #adjunctchat I’m having trouble w/ credentials. Been teaching for 25 yrs so admin experience considered outdated. 2/4/2014 16:10:36
@Comprof1 #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:10:40
@IshaiBarnoy @JeffreyKeefer What’s you’re FT? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:10:48
@AdjunctChat For those just joining, today’s #AdjunctChat is facilitated by @ProfessorF74 http://t.co/ecDvwG2PVl All are welcome! 2/4/2014 16:11:12
@melovell #AdjunctChat I’m not ready to leave academia yet but I’m only taking on work that fits broader career trajectory and builds experience 2/4/2014 16:11:20
@MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Yep, and we still haven’t been paid anything for Spring. I have $3 in my bank account. 5 weeks of wage theft #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:11:25
@cookingandcomp @ProfessorF74 all of my exp is in teaching comp or consulting/writing centers. It seems difficult to rebrand. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:11:32
@IshaiBarnoy RT @Comprof1: #adjunctchat I’m having trouble w/ credentials. Been teaching for 25 yrs so admin experience considered outdated. 2/4/2014 16:11:32
@FromPhDtoLife That’s wonderfully brave and bold, @melovell! How are you faring? Any wisdom to share? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:11:46
@ProfessorF74 RT @AdjunctChat For those just joining, today’s #AdjunctChat is facilitated by @ProfessorF74 http://t.co/ZeFCcpzwbJ All are welcome! 2/4/2014 16:11:49
@LitProfSuz #adjunctchat I’m adjunct at 2 places. I like the flexible schedule. But I worry I will not be competitive when I want FT. 2/4/2014 16:11:59
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74  #adjunctchat Do you work in same geo location? We still have high unemployment among Phd 2/4/2014 16:12:03
@4KM @Comprof1 Interesting to hear your focus on admin. I get the feeling you are quite creative. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:12:09
@cookingandcomp Part of this is also “what do I do with myself?” I always saw myself as a teacher. What are the alternatives? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:12:09
@IshaiBarnoy I’m feeling like I have no “skills”! What rebranding can I possibly do? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:12:12
@JeffreyKeefer @MirandaMerklein How are you going about your search into the #AltAc world? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:12:43
@FromPhDtoLife Good thing performing a feature of many jobs! Not necessarily in a theatre, but same skills in diff contexts @IshaiBarnoy #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:12:48
@LitProfSuz @FromPhDtoLife How did you “embrace transition”?  I’m struggling with this. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:00
@ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp It’s tricky: I’ve stressed my strong wriiting skills, copyediting, & proofreading. Freelancing is my way.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:00
@cookingandcomp I completely understand! RT @IshaiBarnoy I’m feeling like I have no “skills”! What rebranding can I possibly do? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:13:10
@IshaiBarnoy I’m considering manual labor as an alternative — at least philosophically. #Adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:19
@ProfessorF74 @IshaiBarnoy Editing? Writing? Writing consultation? Proofreading? Tutoring? College prep for high schoolers? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:28
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp I have not been able to use #LinkedIn effectively; seems to be a lot of talk without direction #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:13:47
@rjhogue hi everyone … sorry I’m late …  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:48
@4KM @cookingandcomp Many types of work involve helping others to learn, even if they aren’t called teaching #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:13:48
@cookingandcomp @ProfessorF74 I have a friend who has been editing for two years, still can’t get many freelance gigs. Disheartening #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:13:57
@Comprof1 @4KM  #adjunctchat I have corp experience but they want specific tech skills (not design). So trying to get those skills now 2/4/2014 16:13:59
@FromPhDtoLife Give yourself lots of time for a complete transition (not just job change), be patient and kind to yourself, get support #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:14:08
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp Perhaps you have some tips for using #LinkedIn as an #adjunct or #AltAc? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:14:14
@melovell @FromPhDtoLife Ask me in 6 months! Still feeling my way here. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:14:26
@IshaiBarnoy .@FromPhDtoLife Sometimes context and remuneration affect the performance. Not always for the better. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:14:36
@4KM @IshaiBarnoy Perhaps put a competency framework on your desk and give yourself 20 min to write exs of work you’ve done? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:14:55
@JeffreyKeefer @IshaiBarnoy My FT work is as a project manager in an education / quality management department in healthcare #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:14:58
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74  #adjunctchat How do you market your editing skills? Do you do online? 2/4/2014 16:15:07
@melovell @FromPhDtoLife Will do some informational interviewing on consulting as I have much to learn. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:08
@MirandaMerklein @JeffreyKeefer Job banks, career services at my old schools, gov job lists. Nothing yet. I’m overqualified AND lack experience #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:19
@ProfessorF74 @JeffreyKeefer @cookingandcomp LinkedIn = good networking–not so much to FIND jobs.

There’s also http://t.co/bfEclBNJLY.  #adjunctchat

2/4/2014 16:15:20
@JeffreyKeefer @IshaiBarnoy I have never been able to move too far away from education in some capacity or another #AltAc #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:22
@JeffreyKeefer RT @AdjunctChat: For those just joining, today’s #AdjunctChat is facilitated by @ProfessorF74 http://t.co/juedPP6P2M All are welcome! 2/4/2014 16:15:28
@rjhogue I’ve gotten jobs from my connections on LinkedIn.. its important to let them know you are looking #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:15:44
@RebeccaOctavia Please!RT @JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @cookingandcomp Perhaps you have some tips for using #LinkedIn as an #adjunct or #AltAc? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:53
@4KM @Comprof1 Today’s Chronicle talks about IT folks needing to focus on soft skills #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:57
@JeffreyKeefer @melovell Meaning consulting projects? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:15:57
@IshaiBarnoy aw crap! RT @ProfessorF74 Editing? Writing? Writing consultation? Proofreading? Tutoring? College prep for high schoolers? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:15:59
@Comprof1 @melovell  #adjunctchat My sister just did this and worked out well. 2/4/2014 16:16:08
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 Some online, yes. Some just talking to friends, academic colleagues, etc. Some checking Craigslist. 1/2  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:16:14
@FromPhDtoLife Teachers often make good proj managers, knowledge transfer professionals, marketers, consultants etc etc #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:16:28
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 The DC area has a lot of need for freelance consultants for proposals & other writing projects. 2/2  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:16:50
@JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz I also #adjunct at two unis between 3 departments, though I have never really tried the FT route #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:16:55
@4KM I really think wk w a university enhances workplace or consulting skills and vice versa (if the programs are at all applied) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:17:00
@MirandaMerklein @jesimone @ProfessorF74 @JeffreyKeefer What was the most upsetting thing for you about how schools handled ACA? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:17:12
@cookingandcomp Tips for networking? My connections are all either in higher ed or are not on #linkedin. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:17:17
@JeffreyKeefer @cookingandcomp Learner? Education Pofessional? Organizational Learning Consultant? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:17:24
@Comprof1 @4KM  #adjunctchat But reality is filtered out of pool w/out specific IT skills Husband is in IT & he has to fight hard for soft skill hires 2/4/2014 16:17:46
@ProfessorF74 @rjhogue @cookingandcomp Wife & friends helped me revise my LinkedIn to stress transition potential and Xferable skills. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:17:48
@FromPhDtoLife We all have lots and lots of skills. Knowing them is a good starting point to a #postac job/career search. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:17:50
@JeffreyKeefer @4KM @Comprof1 Yes, some people seem humble in their skills! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:17:51
@jesimone @cookingandcomp @IshaiBarnoy Right. Our skills are as teachers. devalued. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:17:55
@ProfessorF74 RT @cookingandcomp Tips for networking? My connections are all either in higher ed or are not on #linkedin. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:18:00
@rjhogue If you can manage it, try attending a practitioner oriented conference .. great way to meet consultants #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:18:07
@IshaiBarnoy @merlemassie I don’t feel like I have any of those skills, at least not in professional quality. #Adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:18:23
@JeffreyKeefer @IshaiBarnoy It depends on what you want to position yourself to do; helps to have a goal in mind to direct the #AltAc work #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:18:38
@cookingandcomp RT @rjhogue If you can manage it, try attending a practitioner oriented conference .. great way to meet consultants #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:18:39
@LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer So I have a weird question for you, which institution do you claim when sending in proposals/articles/etc?  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:19:09
@IshaiBarnoy I meant: #AdjunctChat @ProfessorF74 In other words, what? A) These require HEAVY “rebranding,” B) These sound non-fun by comparison. 2/4/2014 16:19:09
@Comprof1 @cookingandcomp  #adjunctchat What is your specialty? Join local professional group (i.e. AMA for marketing, Chamber of commerce) 2/4/2014 16:19:12
@ProfessorF74 RT @rjhogue If you can manage it, try attending a practitioner oriented conference .. great way to meet consultants #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:19:26
@rjhogue what is a reasonable expectation for a teaching a master’s course as an adjunct (in the US)?  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:19:39
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @rjhogue @cookingandcomp Did your #LinkedIn mainly focus on the resume and skills, or also on the networking? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:19:56
@jesimone @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 @JeffreyKeefer the lies about policy re: cred caps. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:19:56
@rjhogue I’m trying to figure out a reasonable balance between teaching and consulting … to make a living #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:20:11
@RebeccaOctavia @IshaiBarnoy I often feel the same way, but then again, all those professionals started somewhere.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:20:26
@Comprof1 @IshaiBarnoy  #adjunctchat I suggest that your take advantage of free courses i.e. marktng so you can do theatre marktg 2/4/2014 16:20:28
@rjhogue @JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74  @cookingandcomp after taking 16-months off, I just posted to my status “looking for work” …  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:20:41
@JeffreyKeefer As an aside, please let us know if any topics in today stick to you; we can use as a future #AdjunctChat topic! Please let me know!! 2/4/2014 16:20:42
@4KM @LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer Wouldn’t that be a great research topic with adjuncts as participants!?! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:20:46
@cookingandcomp @Comprof1 composition/rhetoric, focus on learning to write, transfer of knowledge. Maybe there is no hope for me! 😉  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:20:56
@ProfessorF74 Me on LinkedIn: http://t.co/TQ8LuSml8a

Mine mostly discusses skills + recent work (w/ testimonials).  #adjunctchat

2/4/2014 16:21:02
@FromPhDtoLife It’s hard in part b/c building new #postac #altac identity (brand) is so personal. No template for all PhDs. @RebeccaOctavia #Adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:21:17
@JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue Do you have any examples you can share so people have a sense what you mean? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:21:26
@Comprof1 #adjunctchat Other thing I’m trying to figure out is self-employed or consulting group. Hate being self-employed but may be only way. 2/4/2014 16:21:32
@JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue Welcome! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:21:45
@IshaiBarnoy @Comprof1 Thanks. Yeah, I’m just starting to get a sense of doing that (courses) with both development and branding in mind. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:21:58
@melovell @Comprof1 That’s very good to know! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:22:03
@fabianbanga Interestingly; I was thinking that this issue of leaving academia is not only an adjunct case #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:22:07
@ProfessorF74 A key thing I’ve seen is talking with others who are in the same boat: as Jen Polk said, there’s no universal template.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:22:29
@4KM One branding challenge is that the reputation of the academy isn’t always stellar in the “real world,” yet sometimes is.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:22:53
@rjhogue @JeffreyKeefer I attended eLearning Guild conf (mLearnCon) .. practitioner focused, most sessions led by consultants #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:22:53
@JeffreyKeefer @4KM @LitProfSuz am ready to expand my research direction, so am up for some around #adjuncts if anybody wants to collaborate! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:22:56
@FromPhDtoLife I rec reading Wm Bridges’ Transitions, wonderful (& scholarly) self-help book! @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat. He is a former Eng prof 🙂 2/4/2014 16:22:59
@JeffreyKeefer RT @IshaiBarnoy: .@FromPhDtoLife Sometimes context and remuneration affect the performance. Not always for the better. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:23:08
@IshaiBarnoy @RebeccaOctavia And maybe they were lucky, too! Hard to snatch up those gateway entry jobs! So… Back to square one? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:23:12
@melovell @JeffreyKeefer Relevant research contracts too. I’ll still apply for academic work but not just *anything* at this point. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:23:13
@ProfessorF74 @fabianbanga Please say more about this. There’ve been recent stories of T/TT faculty leaving.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:23:16
@rjhogue @Comprof1 I think finding others with complementary skills works well in consulting self-employed, but with connections #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:23:38
@IshaiBarnoy RT @fabianbanga: Interestingly; I was thinking that this issue of leaving academia is not only an adjunct case #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:23:45
@FromPhDtoLife Once I declared to ppl “I’m in transition!” almost all could relate. It made me just another person, not failed PhD @LitProfSuz #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:23:46
@Comprof1 @cookingandcomp  #adjunctchat My strength also. (my dissertation topic) Have u lookd into workplace writng? Or consultg w/ school districts? 2/4/2014 16:24:19
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @melovell Consulting on one’s own or for another firm? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:24:22
@LitProfSuz @4KM @JeffreyKeefer Totally! I’ve been thinking @ this since I’m researching & writing independently.  Who gets the credit? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:24:47
@FromPhDtoLife .@qui_oui Yes! This is such a freeing attitude, to me. And it puts you in control, not at mercy of institution/academic culture #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:24:52
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 How would one find out about these sorts of #AltAc consulting opportunities? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:24:52
@melovell @Comprof1 I figure being an adjunct is almost self-employed anyway. It’s a neoliberal dream life. 😉 #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:25:05
@injenuity Gov’t grant projects usually need writing, editing, curriculum development, ID. Try DOL, NSF projects. http://t.co/kS2KAS5Q1V #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:25:06
@cookingandcomp @Comprof1 My mom has suggested this, but I’m not sure where to even begin! Graduating = extended sense of helplessness. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:25:18
@IshaiBarnoy @4KM What do you mean? What’s a competency framework? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:25:19
@RebeccaOctavia @IshaiBarnoy Yes, luck plays a role. Prob. the luck to know the “right” people. Hence networking, though it’s challenging 🙂 #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:25:39
@fabianbanga @ProfessorF74 Yes, many tenured and senior professors are leaving academia / unhappy about work conditions, resources, etc #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:25:41
@FromPhDtoLife Truth! Imagine how much more awesome we’d make the world if we were all thriving & highly valued as we should be! @IshaiBarnoy #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:25:54
@melovell @rjhogue How do you locate consulting work? Do you work through a university centre or totally self-employed? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:26:00
@JeffreyKeefer RT @rjhogue: what is a reasonable expectation for a teaching a master’s course as an adjunct (in the US)?  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:26:04
@melovell RT @FromPhDtoLife: Teachers often make good proj managers, knowledge transfer professionals, marketers, consultants etc etc #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:26:11
@jesimone @FromPhDtoLife @LitProfSuz challenged to not feel like failure. but we were failed. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:26:20
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer  #adjunctchat Linkedin, FT professors (many have consulting gigs on side). Currently asking friends in corps who they use. 2/4/2014 16:26:35
@IshaiBarnoy RT @melovell: @Comprof1 I figure being an adjunct is almost self-employed anyway. It’s a neoliberal dream life. 😉 #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:26:36
@FromPhDtoLife @melovell Have fun! Good thing we love to learn, us academics 🙂 #adjunctchat See my Q&As on website 2/4/2014 16:26:43
@rjhogue @melovell at the moment it finds me … I was lucky to have a supervisor who does a lot of contract work #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:26:45
@fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein sure, I am a senior faculty tenured and have considered many times to leave academia #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:27:15
@rjhogue I’ve learned that right not there is a lot of money in medical education (eLearning for med ed) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:27:19
@4KM Might be game @JeffreyKeefer @LitProfSuz Must finish papers first. Might be difficult for funding but could be fascinating #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:27:22
@JeffreyKeefer @jesimone @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Can you talk more about what was the last straw for you? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:27:33
@Comprof1 @melovell  #adjunctchat University has is a good resource. They can handle some of admin if you work for them as consultant in businesses 2/4/2014 16:27:43
@ProfessorF74 Great networking and logistics planning so far.

In one tweet, share what your last straw is/was/will be for leaving academia. #adjunctchat

2/4/2014 16:27:44
@JeffreyKeefer RT @rjhogue: I’m trying to figure out a reasonable balance between teaching and consulting … to make a living #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:27:50
@IshaiBarnoy .@FromPhDtoLife That may be mathematically impossible! The job market itself may be antithetical to all of us thriving/valued. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:27:51
@melovell @cookingandcomp Have you asked connections (academic and personal) if they know people in x field? I’ve heard this can work. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:28:01
@4KM RT @melovell: @Comprof1 I figure being an adjunct is almost self-employed anyway. It’s a neoliberal dream life. 😉 #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:28:24
@Comprof1 @rjhogue  #adjunctchat What about working for pharm or insurance co on educating about long term health needs (i.e. asthma, diabetes, nutrit 2/4/2014 16:29:11
@RebeccaOctavia @ProfessorF74 almost no perspective for permanent & full-time work #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:29:15
@rjhogue @IshaiBarnoy @melovell @Comprof1being an adjunct is TOTALLY self-employed! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:29:18
@ProfessorF74 RT @RebeccaOctavia @ProfessorF74 almost no perspective for permanent & full-time work #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:29:27
@injenuity I track 500+ #edtech startups at https://t.co/NJYpNbU6xF Some may be hiring or may pay for advising/consulting. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:29:49
@FromPhDtoLife Well perhaps so @IshaiBarnoy but I’m an optimist, so let me have my fantasy :)) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:29:51
@hamiltonkimkh RT @ProfessorF74: RT @rjhogue If you can manage it, try attending a practitioner oriented conference .. great way to meet consultants #adju… 2/4/2014 16:30:00
@4KM @ProfessorF74 If I ever feel I don’t have a voice, I’ll set other priorities #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:30:01
@Comprof1 @melovell  #adjunctchat I did. Problem is self employed takes a lot of time and planning going from job to job. 2/4/2014 16:30:04
@ProfessorF74 For me: being “stale” and “old.” No way to move up internally. No chance to compete with 500+ “fresh” PhDs.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:30:06
@IshaiBarnoy RT @FromPhDtoLife: Well perhaps so @IshaiBarnoy but I’m an optimist, so let me have my fantasy :)) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:30:15
@jesimone My school intentionally devalued us. Made clear no room for growth and no respect as colleagues when they capped us #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:30:20
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 Nice example of #Adjunct networking! Just connected with you on #LinkedIn #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:30:49
@melovell @ProfessorF74 I tell myself I’ll leave if I go 3 years post-PhD without a multiyear employment contract. Trying to be pragmatic #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:30:56
@IshaiBarnoy @FromPhDtoLife Yeah, I’m Captain Bringdown here, I know. I’m actually trying to be optimistic, too. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:31:01
@LitProfSuz @rjhogue @IshaiBarnoy @melovell Yeah, but you don’t get to check that for taxes since an institution does pay you. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:31:04
@RebeccaOctavia @ProfessorF74 “stale” and “old” are negative terms for experienced. Wish this was more valued… #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:31:05
@rjhogue I want to teach a few courses, but I don’t want the tenure handcuffs #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:31:09
@Comprof1 @rjhogue  #adjunctchat But you don’t have to pay SS taxes as self employed if adjunct. Does make a difference. 2/4/2014 16:31:13
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Can you talk more about what you mean?#AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:31:15
@rjhogue @LitProfSuz  @IshaiBarnoy @melovell I think that highlights the need for a couple of contracts on the side #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:31:48
@melovell @rjhogue Yep, that’s what i need to hook in to. I will let more people know I am looking. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:31:55
@rjhogue @LitProfSuz  @IshaiBarnoy @melovell it also depends on who pays you. Some institutions (at least in Canada) pay contract #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:32:11
@AdjunctChat We are 30 minutes into today’s #AdjunctChat, so there is still time to join in if you want to discuss “When We Decide To Leave” #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:32:19
@4KM @ProfessorF74 One thing I like about part time and independent is I have freedom to find ways of avoiding “stale” #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:32:22
@Comprof1 @LitProfSuz  #adjunctchat believe me, as a FT self employed consultant for 2 yrs can be worse taxwise than adjunct 2/4/2014 16:32:48
@JeffreyKeefer @MirandaMerklein That sounds awful. What is ACA? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:32:52
@JeffreyKeefer @4KM @LitProfSuz Great! BTW, spoken like a true academic. I always fund my own research, BTW! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:33:27
@ProfessorF74 @4KM I’m hoping for the same thing. So far, my teaching exp + PhD + editing skills have impressed (& led to good paychecks).  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:33:37
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 Great resources; thanks! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:33:50
@FromPhDtoLife RT @jesimone: My school intentionally devalued us. Made clear no room for growth and no respect as colleagues when they capped us #AdjunctC… 2/4/2014 16:33:54
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer Well, salaries are not very good; resources for research are not great… #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:33:56
@FromPhDtoLife RT @ProfessorF74: For me: being “stale” and “old.” No way to move up internally. No chance to compete with 500+ “fresh” PhDs.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:34:09
@rjhogue If you asked to connect with me on LinkedIn, please tell me how you know me .. or I will reject the invitation! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:34:09
@IshaiBarnoy RT @ProfessorF74: For me: being “stale” and “old.” No way to move up internally. No chance to compete with 500+ “fresh” PhDs.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:34:44
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer Plus administration is changing constantly affecting your goals; so very unpredictable workplace #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:35:07
@FromPhDtoLife In real world, so many yrs of experience usually = $$$ & big respect. Good thing you’re leaving academia! @ProfessorF74 #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:35:08
@JeffreyKeefer RT @injenuity: I track 500+ #edtech startups at http://t.co/RgAlGOiJIf… Some may be hiring or may pay for advising/consulting. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:35:22
@AdjunctYoda RT @FromPhDtoLife: In real world, so many yrs of experience usually = $$$ & big respect. Good thing you’re leaving academia! @ProfessorF74 … 2/4/2014 16:35:22
@ProfessorF74 RT @FromPhDtoLife: In real world, so many yrs of experience usually = $$$ & big respect. Good thing you’re leaving academia! @ProfessorF74 … 2/4/2014 16:35:22
@MirandaMerklein @JeffreyKeefer The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). If we work 30+ hrs/wk, schools would have to provide teachers w/ health ins #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:35:25
@FromPhDtoLife RT @ProfessorF74: @4KM I’m hoping for the same thing. So far, my teaching exp + PhD + editing skills have impressed (& led to good paycheck… 2/4/2014 16:35:29
@melovell @Comprof1 That’s the arrangement I’m setting up. Any consulting work will be through contracts with uni’s innovation branch. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:35:38
@JeffreyKeefer @4KM @ProfessorF74 Can you talk more about what you have in mind? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:35:50
@ProfessorF74 @IshaiBarnoy @FromPhdToLife  That gets sadder with every retweet.  #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:35:52
@FromPhDtoLife RT @injenuity: I track 500+ #edtech startups at https://t.co/NJYpNbU6xF Some may be hiring or may pay for advising/consulting. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:36:00
@IshaiBarnoy RT @FromPhDtoLife: In real world, so many yrs of experience usually = $$$ & big respect. Good thing you’re leaving academia! @ProfessorF74 … 2/4/2014 16:36:16
@JeffreyKeefer @IshaiBarnoy @FromPhDtoLife It is hard to be optimistic at times when you are so often devalued or exploited #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:36:43
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer As an example, you can also see many famous professors changing institutions constantly #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:02
@Comprof1 MT @melovell @Comprof1 Arrangement I’m setting up. Any consulting work will be through contracts with uni’s innovation branch. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:03
@JeffreyKeefer RT @AdjunctChat: We are 30 minutes into today’s #AdjunctChat, so there is still time to join in if you want to discuss “When We Decide To… 2/4/2014 16:37:18
@IshaiBarnoy @ProfessorF74 @FromPhDtoLife Iffen it ain’t the truth, tho! #OldieButOldie #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:39
@JeffreyKeefer @4KM @ProfessorF74 How did you both find that balance of teaching and other work? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:45
@jesimone @MirandaMerklein @JeffreyKeefer tried to fight it to no avail at our school. msg is we aren’t valued #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:49
@MirandaMerklein @fabianbanga @ProfessorF74  How do you think admin got so overpowering when teachers and students are the real focus of unis? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:37:56
@Comprof1 @IshaiBarnoy  #adjunctchat Actually that is changing. Largest longterm unemployed is over 50. 2/4/2014 16:38:06
@ProfessorF74 RT @MirandaMerklein: @fabianbanga @ProfessorF74  How do you think admin got so overpowering when teachers and students are the real focus o… 2/4/2014 16:38:06
@melovell @Comprof1 @cookingandcomp Yeah, no quick fixes. 😦 #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:38:34
@rjhogue @melovell Since I’m still a student I avoid the Uni … as they limit my hours #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:38:52
@JeffreyKeefer @MirandaMerklein Ahh, yet another wrench in the mustard, so to speak #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:39:09
@Comprof1 @MirandaMerklein  #adjunctchat Financial aid and Accreditation orgs required more and more which resulted in more admin 2/4/2014 16:39:11
@FromPhDtoLife Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:39:47
@fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 I do not see administration as the only (even main) problem. Occasionally yes, but not always #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:39:48
@ProfessorF74 RT @FromPhDtoLife: Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:40:19
@AdjunctYoda RT @FromPhDtoLife: Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:40:19
@Comprof1 @rjhogue  #adjunctchat Do you work outside of academy? 2/4/2014 16:40:20
@4KM @JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 1st priority is to have both: diversity of cultures, learning and income. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:40:32
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga Got it. I wonder how FT academia is different than FT work anywhere else. Are always politics and budget issues #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:40:56
@4KM RT @Comprof1: @IshaiBarnoy  #adjunctchat Actually that is changing. Largest longterm unemployed is over 50. 2/4/2014 16:41:00
@RebeccaOctavia RT @FromPhDtoLife Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:41:01
@fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Admin is an easy target; the problem is bigger #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:41:09
@elvirareche RT @FromPhDtoLife: We all have lots and lots of skills. Knowing them is a good starting point to a #postac job/career search. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:41:41
@rjhogue @Comprof1 I spent 15 years outside of academy (corporate), now I do eLearn programming and adjunct #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:41:59
@Comprof1 @fabianbanga  #adjunctchat Depends on levels of admin. Our uni admin work w/ fac but our “trustees” and system don’t. 2/4/2014 16:42:00
@4KM @JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 I rarely have large multi-year commitments, so can build the whole opportunistically #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:42:01
@JeffreyKeefer RT @FromPhDtoLife: Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:42:11
@IshaiBarnoy @Comprof1 #adjunctchat what is this in response to? 2/4/2014 16:42:35
@JeffreyKeefer RT @fabianbanga: @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Admin is an easy target; the problem is bigger #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:42:47
@4KM @RebeccaOctavia @FromPhDtoLife @chrishumphrey With most having multiple careers, why one “X”? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:42:52
@ProfessorF74 For me, I’m transitiioning into a career as freelance editor & writer. Hybrid of #postac and #altac. May work w/ some scholars. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:42:53
@MirandaMerklein @Comprof1 Good points. How can we reel upper admin, deanlets back in, or is it a lost cause? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:43:09
@Comprof1 @rjhogue  #adjunctchat I’d avoid the uni also. More opportunities in corp training. 2/4/2014 16:43:13
@FromPhDtoLife I had to psychologically disengage, decide to forge ahead. Current situation sucked, not me or my future @JeffreyKeefer #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:43:29
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer Good point; salary is a big difference; income and resources for a Doctor (medical) and Doctor (PhD) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:43:32
@LitProfSuz @JeffreyKeefer @MirandaMerklein Yes.I received letter from 1 of my uni’s that they will limit adjunct to under 30 hours. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:43:41
@rjhogue @Comprof1 and corp pays better … health professions ed is keeping me busy lately #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:43:58
@JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue @Comprof1 So you went the other way, into #adjunct work? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:44:03
@IshaiBarnoy @FromPhDtoLife @chrishumphrey How long ’til X = Nuclear/biomedical waste cleaner, on-contract, part-time? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:44:11
@rjhogue But the most important thing for contracting is having a network to support your gaps, I work with a team #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:44:23
@ProfessorF74 Looks like there’s more than one last straw for us: salary, promotion, senior admins, respect, ACA, research support, exploit. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:44:30
@FromPhDtoLife .@JeffreyKeefer @IshaiBarnoy Optimism is a practice and habit. You cultivate it actively, purposefully (says science btw) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:44:30
@MirandaMerklein @fabianbanga @ProfessorF74 How can the bigger problem be described? Is there a solution? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:44:33
@RebeccaOctavia @4KM @FromPhDtoLife good point! that kind of diversity is also a strength #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:44:34
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 Congrats on the new #AltAc #PostAc work! #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:44:39
@Comprof1 @IshaiBarnoy  #adjunctchat In response to admin not being problem but depends on level. We have 4 levels. further up less fac interaction. 2/4/2014 16:44:39
@rjhogue @JeffreyKeefer  @Comprof1 ya, I’ve always wanted to teach online Masters in Education courses (Ed Tech, emerging tech) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:45:07
@JeffreyKeefer @ProfessorF74 Did that all come about through your #AltAc networking that you mentioned earlier? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:45:07
@IshaiBarnoy @ProfessorF74 I’ll be transition into a life of looking for work *while unemployed.* #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:45:25
@4KM @fabianbanga Career counsellors told friend he could do anything, but don’t become MD: too mechanical. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:45:42
@rjhogue Whats ACA? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:45:48
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @IshaiBarnoy You have to wonder it that first level feels the same pressures? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:45:59
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74  #adjunctchat Also point in life. Now I am mobile because my kids are in college. Had to be adjunct while kids were younger. 2/4/2014 16:46:26
@melovell @MirandaMerklein @fabianbanga @ProfessorF74 They control the $$$$. For a good rant on this see Hil’s book Whackademia. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:46:29
@fabianbanga @Comprof1 Yes, trusties are another universe; plus politicians, consultants, communities and priorities (think about sports) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:46:30
@fabianbanga @4KM : )) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:47:11
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @IshaiBarnoy In one of the depts where I teach the program leadership does not teach, only administers. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:47:15
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer  #adjunctchat Definately lower levels feel it. I know Dept heads have to make very diff decisions. 2/4/2014 16:47:35
@melovell @fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Government research measuring schemes, less public funding, competition… #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:47:37
@FromPhDtoLife @4KM @RebeccaOctavia @chrishumphrey Of course. No need to limit. Point is we’re professionals, not perpetual students #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:47:57
@MirandaMerklein @LitProfSuz We R capped at 27 hrs. I’ll never understand why the professors are the worst paid, treated, when we R most needed #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:48:02
@IshaiBarnoy @ProfessorF74 I’m partly joking. I’ll keep teaching part time as I do now. I’ll jump ship if/when something “happens.” #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:48:48
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer Just like in all other organizations, perhaps? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:48:57
@ProfessorF74 One other thing: Advantages & disadvantages of writing “Why I’m Leaving” pieces? I wrote one AND will be on PBS NewsHour soon. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:49:19
@IshaiBarnoy Well, #AdjunctChat folks! It’s been nice to talk to you again. I’ve got to go prepare for my next class. Toodles! 2/4/2014 16:49:41
@melovell @Comprof1 @rjhogue Interesting. What sort of training? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:49:41
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74  #adjunctchat Make sure you let us know. 2/4/2014 16:49:58
@FromPhDtoLife RT @ProfessorF74: Looks like there’s more than one last straw for us: salary, promotion, senior admins, respect, ACA, research support, exp… 2/4/2014 16:50:25
@ProfessorF74 @Comprof1 Will do. I’m a shameless self-promoter that way.

The blog will be paired with @FromPhDtoLife for Chronicle Vitae. #adjunctchat

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@Comprof1 #adjunctchat It’s hard to leave academia When I told my sister I’d prob leave, she said “but you love teaching.” Will always do research. 2/4/2014 16:51:14
@rjhogue @melovell @Comprof1 just search for “instructional design” .. right now tonnes of work in corp sector #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:51:25
@MirandaMerklein I think students are noticing that neither they nor their professors are the central concern of #highered managers in the US.  #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:51:48
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 Do you fund your own research as well? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:51:53
@Comprof1 #adjunctchat One reason I’m rethinking leaving aca is that jrnls are now filtering out those w/out uni affiliation. 2/4/2014 16:51:57
@fabianbanga @melovell @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Particularly in US, u can see massive propaganda anti-public funding/institutions ??? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:51:57
@FromPhDtoLife Wish it wasn’t so, but changing careers is very challenging. Takes time, energy, lots of internal & external work #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:52:08
@Comprof1 @rjhogue  #adjunctchat I’ve applied, but they are looking for tech skills I don’t have. I don’t program (but could learn). 2/4/2014 16:52:45
@JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue @melovell @FromPhDtoLife Makes me wonder if there is a better search engine or jobs list for #AltAc or #PostAc #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:53:14
@FromPhDtoLife Hopefully, you will find support from others who have or are now also in transition, no matter from what to what #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:53:15
@melovell @rjhogue @Comprof1 But what do you instruct in? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:53:16
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer  #adjunctchat Yes. Funded my own dissertation research. 2/4/2014 16:53:42
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 Talk more about this . . . #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:53:47
@FromPhDtoLife That support prob won’t get you a job, but it will help keep you sane so you can better seek out your next job & career #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:53:52
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer  #adjunctchat Problem if I leave is no access to resources and no “research oversight” journals want. 2/4/2014 16:54:34
@rjhogue @Comprof1 This is were MOOCs are good, and Codeacademy … I love teaching digital literacy skills, exactly what PhDs need! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:54:55
@melovell @FromPhDtoLife Yes, and when you’ve been pushing yourself for a long time you don’t come to it with fresh enthusiasm #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:54:58
@FromPhDtoLife B/c you have to keep at it & it’s challenging & taxing to transition. Support key. #adjunctchat can be part of your support network! 2/4/2014 16:55:02
@fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Yes, I think it is a political decision as a nation. Where are the priorities? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:55:05
@JeffreyKeefer Thinking of future #AdjunctChat topics and wonder if “#adjuncts who conduct research” OR “those who work FT and want to #adjunct” are good? 2/4/2014 16:55:24
@rjhogue @melovell  @Comprof1 sorry missed the context of that question? Instruct what in? #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:55:27
@fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 is the priority the market (neoliberalism) or the community as a unit (equity) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:55:52
@JeffreyKeefer @fabianbanga @MirandaMerklein @ProfessorF74 Gotta love free enterprise — the priorities are mine and my wallet’s alone #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:55:56
@YourDailyArt @ProfessorF74 I wrote one the @josh_boldt put on AP blog. I have not found a job yet; still teaching 1 online and looking #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:56:13
@rjhogue RT @JeffreyKeefer@melovell @FromPhDtoLife Makes me wonder if there is a better search engine or jobs list for #AltAc or #PostAc #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:56:21
@JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 These are excellent topics for future #AdjunctChat; not sure how to reply to them myself otherwise. 2/4/2014 16:56:39
@FromPhDtoLife World thinks we’re meant to be profs/teachers. But that’s wrong. There are so many things PhDs do & love & w/ good pay! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:56:56
@melovell @Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer Huge problem. I have a 2 year ‘visiting academic’ sort of role. We’ll see what way it goes from there. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:57:03
@4KM Wow RT @Comprof1 #adjunctchat One reason I’m rethinking leaving aca is that jrnls are now filtering out those w/out uni affiliation 2/4/2014 16:57:09
@JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue @Comprof1 Not familiar with that; can you share a link to? #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:57:10
@melovell @JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue @FromPhDtoLife I don’t know. Good question. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:57:37
@Dr_Pasini As adjunct, I could not pay all my bills, so I left teaching to work FT in social services for 3 yrs.Now back to teaching FT. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:57:41
@mssackstein RT @ProfessorF74: One other thing: Advantages & disadvantages of writing “Why I’m Leaving” pieces? I wrote one AND will be on PBS NewsHour … 2/4/2014 16:57:41
@JeffreyKeefer @YourDailyArt @ProfessorF74 @josh_boldt I agree that networking through sharing are underestimated by many #adjuncts #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:58:25
@rjhogue @Comprof1 You’ve inspired me to write a blog post on where to start with programming/digital literacy #adjunctchat … coming soon 2/4/2014 16:59:00
@FromPhDtoLife @JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue @melovell Vast maj of jobs aren’t posted anywhere, esp not good ones for mid-career professionals. #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 16:59:01
@fabianbanga @JeffreyKeefer We are so indoctrinated that we cannot see goals clearly (also indoctrination in graduate school) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 16:59:50
@ProfessorF74 Thanks everyone for a lively #adjunctchat today. We pretty much addressed my questions–nonlinearly as usual. The work got done, though… 2/4/2014 17:00:12
@FromPhDtoLife How can you get some fresh enthusiasm, @melovell? For me, it helps to reconnect with what ultimately drives me #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:00:31
@rjhogue @JeffreyKeefer @Comprof1 http://t.co/GeNbfSH4T7 and there are courses on EdX, Coursera, Udacity,but may be too comp sci centric #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:00:43
@chrishumphrey RT @FromPhDtoLife: Remember @chrishumphrey’s advice: “I’m a professional X #withaPhD.” Takes time, work to figure out what X is #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:00:48
@Comprof1 @rjhogue @melovell u might also do team work (i.e. collaborative writing, putting together effective presentations/arguments) #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:01:37
@melovell @FromPhDtoLife @JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue Good thing to remember. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:01:43
@fabianbanga #AdjunctChat all the best and thank you everybody / see you soon 2/4/2014 17:01:44
@AdjunctChat Thanks for facilitating such a lively #AdjunctChat today, @ProfessorF74 . We look forward to @VCVaile with next week’s chat!… 2/4/2014 17:01:46
@RebeccaOctavia @ProfessorF74 thanks for the interesting #adjunctchat today! 2/4/2014 17:02:10
@rjhogue @melovell there is a fair amount of consulting in ID creating online courses – online is booming #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:02:14
@AdjunctChat We need #AdjunctChat facilitators for March and April. Want to chat about something you heard today? Don’t be shy! http://t.co/89LGOhT3kB 2/4/2014 17:03:03
@FromPhDtoLife Ack, time flies! Thanks, #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:03:04
@JeffreyKeefer RT @AdjunctChat: Thanks for facilitating such a lively #AdjunctChat today, @ProfessorF74 . We look forward to @VCVaile with next week’s… 2/4/2014 17:03:14
@kelly_j_baker RT @FromPhDtoLife: World thinks we’re meant to be profs/teachers. But that’s wrong. There are so many things PhDs do & love & w/ good pay! … 2/4/2014 17:03:17
@JeffreyKeefer RT @RebeccaOctavia: @ProfessorF74 thanks for the interesting #adjunctchat today! 2/4/2014 17:03:23
@melovell @FromPhDtoLife Yes, I will have to give some thought to that. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:03:27
@ProfessorF74 RT @AdjunctChat We need #AdjunctChat facilitators for March and April. Want to chat about something you heard today?  http://t.co/Am3PlvtXQY 2/4/2014 17:03:48
@JeffreyKeefer Thanks everybody; great #AdjunctChat today! @ProfessorF74 2/4/2014 17:03:54
@Comprof1 @ProfessorF74 Thanks. Great topic and much to motivate me. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:03:58
@FromPhDtoLife Unfort, networking is key! Fort, it can be really fun… we’re doing it right now! @melovell @JeffreyKeefer @rjhogue #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:04:30
@mamileham RT @FromPhDtoLife: World thinks we’re meant to be profs/teachers. But that’s wrong. There are so many things PhDs do & love & w/ good pay! … 2/4/2014 17:04:36
@melovell @rjhogue I didn’t realise that. Now I am curious to have a look. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:04:57
@Comprof1 @rjhogue Let me know. I’d love to read about it. #AdjunctChat Also, can you include if you are expected to be on site or work from distance? 2/4/2014 17:05:45
@rjhogue yes time flies … time for a bike ride 🙂 … nice chattin; with y’all #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:05:50
@melovell @Comprof1 @rjhogue Good thoughts. I wonder how people get into that kind of thing. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:06:14
@4KM Sorry to miss the last of the conversations in #adjunctchat  Thanks everyone, and all the best with your work and career planning. 2/4/2014 17:06:35
@melovell Thanks everyone. Fascinating #AdjunctChat today. Always good to meet such clever, passionate people. 2/4/2014 17:07:40
@rjhogue @Comprof1 segues nicely into my class next week. I’m teaching “an hour of code” to M. Ed. students (online) #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:08:18
@Comprof1 @JeffreyKeefer I noticed this year that you MUST have university affiliation to upload to Journals. #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:08:45
@rjhogue @Comprof1 Can you comment on which “tech skills” you feel you don’t have? #adjunctchat (or DM me) .. that will help me write something 2/4/2014 17:09:18
@LitProfSuz @FromPhDtoLife Thanks for the book recommendation.  Just ordered it! #adjunctchat 2/4/2014 17:09:53
@polypel88 RT @JeffreyKeefer: @IshaiBarnoy @FromPhDtoLife It is hard to be optimistic at times when you are so often devalued or exploited #AdjunctChat 2/4/2014 17:10:06
@polypel88 RT @Comprof1: #adjunctchat It’s hard to leave academia When I told my sister I’d prob leave, she said “but you love teaching.” Will always … 2/4/2014 17:10:51
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